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skater
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I was wondering do tags bite hard. Do they need cage as big as CAG and would to spend less time with it if my budgie's cage is next to it. |
Wednesday December 28, 2005 3:06 am |
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alexandraatje
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Hi
I think tags do bite quite hard. So make sure the cage is adecuate Skater. It is a good idea to put both cages together but this does not mean you can forget about him completely. You still have to dedicate time to them. Maybe in time they can stay together in the same cage. Take it slow, time will let you know |
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Wednesday December 28, 2005 9:04 am |
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Chaquita's Mom
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A grey is not a bird that can tollerate being left in a cage for hours on end with minimal human interaction. When you chose a large bird breed, you basically adopted a toddler. And yes, their bite can pack quite a punch if they mean it. Other times they will use their beak as another hand to climb up onto you.
How long have you had your TAG? I sounds to me like you may not have researched the grey much. Please, do as much research as you can on this breed and also if you have any questions don't hessitate to ask for help  |
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Wednesday December 28, 2005 2:52 pm |
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shirin
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Hi Skater, Yes TAGs can bite really hard to the point of breaking skin, and yes, ideally they should have a cage as big as a congos. They're not that much smaller. They also need to be out of their cage for a large porportion of the day, as they don't do well alone in a cage, whether there are other birds around or not. Just look at the Greys you see in the petstores, after a certain age almost all of them start plucking, and they're surrounded by other birds. |
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Wednesday December 28, 2005 3:54 pm |
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skater
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i havent bought 1 yet im still deciding between a tag,hahns macaw, and conure |
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Thursday December 29, 2005 3:51 am |
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Chaquita's Mom
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We don't mean to discourage you in your purchase, but, good parronting requires time. Did you know that a grey can live up to 80 years? Are you ready for this kind of commitment?? They are the most intelligent bird out there and with high intelligence comes more time spent with your bird. There is a big difference between a budgie and a grey! Maybe you should start with something a bit smaller. A conure, love bird, cockatiel, sengal or a quaker. These are all great birds but still require time, training and love. Their lifespan isn't that of a grey but still have quite long lives and are very trainable and have awesome little personalities.
Research research research!! There is a lot of info on all these birds, care, housing, personality traits, the list goes on. After you've researched the birds you're interrested in, then you decide what bird is right for you. Too many people go into owning a parrot with no clue or education and the bird suffers for many years for it. Please educate yourself and we're here to support you and give you all the advice you need  |
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Thursday December 29, 2005 1:36 pm |
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skater
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for some reason ive never seen a bird that plucked before and ive been to a lot of pet and bird stores, but im also happy i havent. and is it also true that some of them just enjoy someone in the same room close to their cages especially for the birds that dont like coming out and arent they like that for the first few weeks they come into your house. theres pet and bird stores that have them and a pet store thats really close and we know who owns it and they have a CAG that only probally goes out an 1hr. a day is tame and happy and there is also a bird store that is pretty close that has the birds in a open "hanging forest" where they have an african grey that looked just as happy as the one in the cage. also would they also be just as happy on a t stand next to while your doing something as you holding it. |
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Sunday January 1, 2006 6:47 am |
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Chaquita's Mom
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I'm gonna try to not sound harsh  You're not even 13 yet. If you want a pet that is happy just knowing you are in the same room with it, then a parrot or any bird for that matter isn't for you. Taking care of a bird is like taking care of a child, and you are a child yourself. Maybe you should consider getting a reptile or maybe even a pet rat (which by the way I've had and they make wonderful and affectionate pets ) You really need to be an adult to make a commitment like this, owning a parrot.
The only reason why the birds in the pet stores seem happy is because they are young, there is a lot of activity and other birds there to listen to and check out. When they start to get older, even at a year, they'll become depressed, pacing in their cages, pulling out there feathers, screaming and mutilating themselves till they eventually die from lack of attention or infection from mutilation. |
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Tuesday January 3, 2006 12:49 am |
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skater
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I was just saying about being in the same room as you because some will not let touck them and will stay in their cage and wont come out |
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Tuesday January 3, 2006 3:21 am |
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shirin
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The birds that stay in their cage and don't want to come out are usually only like that for the first week or two, and that's only because they're getting used to their new surroundings. Otherwise, an older bird could be like that from having been abused or having had some sort of traumatic experience with humans. Otherwise a healthy, secure and happy parrot loves attention, and will do anything to come out and be with their human companion.
I have to agree with Chiquita's Mom, I don't think an African Grey would be a good choice, they are highly intelligent, and require constant mental stimulation to keep them from getting bored. Like CM said, the birds you see at the petstores that look perfect and happy, are usually babies... but these birds have such long lifespans, and most of them do start plucking eventually if not stimulated enough. Another thing you should know is that Greys are highly sensitive and kind of neurotic too, they can freak out if you get a new piece of furniture in your room, or if a new friend visits. The smallest change in their routine can greatly upset them, or scare them. Are you willing to put up with all that at your age? Believe me, I have an African Grey, and it seriously is like having a toddler... sometimes I feel like my whole life revolves around her. She definitely isn't content to be in her cage by herself. Another thing you have to consider is the cost. A large parrot is really expensive to keep. You have to constantly buy them new toys to keep them from getting bored. A vet visit for a check up alone costs almost $200. And the food is very expensive... the list goes on.. Anyway, whatever you decide, please don't buy a parrot of any kind, if you think it can just sit in a cage and look pretty and amuse you when you have the time for it. I really hope you do more research before you make an 80 year long commitment. |
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Tuesday January 3, 2006 5:01 am |
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skater
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i think i made my decision that that i shouldnt get an african greyi think i might just get a big conure or mini macaw |
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Tuesday January 3, 2006 5:16 am |
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shirin
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The bigger conures are really loud, if that's a factor. But they're really cute |
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Tuesday January 3, 2006 3:27 pm |
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Cathy
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Joined: 02 Apr 2005
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Hi Skater!
I'm just wondering, will your folks be helping you out when & if you do get a companion birdie? And are they helping you in your decision, as they too will be having to live with whatever you decide on, & I'm sure they must be going to have to help with the finances, correct? |
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Tuesday January 3, 2006 3:35 pm |
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skater
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my prents don't hep me take care of my parakeet right now and its really easy because its small and only 1 of them. My mom kind of helped me out but I made the decision and my dad doesnt care as long as its not loud when hes sleeping because hes usually at work most of the day. I almost bought a cockatiel, but someone bought it before me and I was going to get a parrotlet, but decided not to because they don't get along with other birds. So I just got a parakeet because they aren't expensive, easy to take of, and the one I got is friendly |
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Tuesday January 3, 2006 6:36 pm |
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Cathy
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Did you just get the parakeet? I think keets are great little guys! They're very fun to watch, beautiful in color, have great personality! |
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Tuesday January 3, 2006 10:29 pm |
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