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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
| Senegal and a new baby Grey? Could it work? |
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I have a Sennie of 18mnths old and have learnt so much from having him as my first parrot. I have been thinking about getting a bigger bird for a while, I hadn't considered a Grey until I fell in love with one of 10 weeks, I have been to see him three times now. He (or she?) is adorable and silly tame, already trying to talk!!! I am absolutely besotted but so worried about upsetting my little sennie, he can be a little grump at the best of times. I would have to keep them in the same room although a distance apart. Any advice or thoughts on this please, am in such a dilema. |
Sunday September 10, 2006 9:06 pm |
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Ag_86
Bappie
Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 77
Location: Mississauga, ON |
Hi, a lot of it will depend on your senegal. Has he been around or intereacted with other birds before? It would be a good idea to bring your senegal in to meet this grey before you decide to buy him, if it is possible. When introducing a new bird it is best to take you original one out first and put him away last. That way he will still feel more secure about the grey not taking his place and he won't get jealous. Senegals are pair bonding so you would want to make sure that he doesn't feel as if anything has changed between you two since the new bird has arrived. I hope that helps! |
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Monday September 11, 2006 2:50 am |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
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Originally posted by Ag_86
It would be a good idea to bring your senegal in to meet this grey before you decide to buy him, if it is possible.
That sounds great, in theory, the problem is that the Grey could very well be harboring an unseen disease that your sennie could contract.
I also very highly recommend that you quarantine any new bird you are bringing into your home for a period of about 45 days.
There's never a guarantee that one bird will ever be friendly with another, but it is still possible for them to live in the same house together peacefully. I live with 3 birds, all of which I don't trust to be alone together, but yet they're all housed in the same room together & this has never been a problem.
BUT, your little sennie could very well learn to get along well with a new addition, if properly introduced  |
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Monday September 11, 2006 5:29 am |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
I strongly agree with Cathy on this one. A quarantine is recommanded with any new bird.
The grey is much larger then a senegal. I would not allow them to interact together at all unless closely supervised. The grey can be just playing around and break a wing or take a foot off, with you sitting there watching. So be extremly careful. When different size birds are placed together. And never never in the same cage....Accidents not only can happen but will happen...
Now that I have scared you enough. A Grey is a very good second bird to have. General they mixe well with other birds.
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Monday September 11, 2006 12:00 pm |
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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
Thanks, you are all a great help as ever I had no intention of putting them in the same cage and would not expect them to be best buddies any more than I would the dog. So many of you have more than one bird so knew you would be the best place to ask questions. Went to see him again today and kind of wish he wasn't so adorable. They have three but this one stands out a mile! He was looking at me today and just sooo looked like 'buy me, buy mee!!!' I will leave it till the end of the week and if he is still available fate will decide for me. I will keep you posted. |
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Monday September 11, 2006 8:19 pm |
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Ag_86
Bappie
Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 77
Location: Mississauga, ON |
Sorry, I mean to mention the disease and quarantine part. I don't know how I missed it. I do agree you wouldn't want to let the two be together without very close supervision if at all. |
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Tuesday September 12, 2006 3:20 am |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
Oh joti, I know your heart will be your guild, & it sounds to me as if yours is already made up 
I really don't think you would have a problem living with both of them. I'm sure your sennie will adjust fine to sharing you with another! And I think that Greys are such awesome birds! I can certainly see your attraction to it! |
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Tuesday September 12, 2006 12:18 pm |
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trafire22
Egg
Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 9
Location: New York |
| Senegal and Grey |
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I was wondering if you all thought the same would be true for moving in the other direction? I have a 1 1/2 year old Grey and was thinking about purchasing a senegal (or another smaller bird). My main concern was whether the addition of a second bird at this point would interfere with my Grey's learning to talk? |
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Wednesday December 27, 2006 3:24 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
| Re: Senegal and Grey |
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Originally posted by trafire22
I was wondering if you all thought the same would be true for moving in the other direction? I have a 1 1/2 year old Grey and was thinking about purchasing a senegal (or another smaller bird). My main concern was whether the addition of a second bird at this point would interfere with my Grey's learning to talk?
The same concerns as mention above hold true. As far as interfering with learning to talk? Grey's as shy by nature, so interoducing a new bird into the flock might slow the grey down a little, but I do not think it would do any harm. The other way around would most likely cause a major slow down. But the grey is already estblished within the flock. But please take all the cautions in this thread into account. You do not want to see anybody get sick or harmed needlessly.
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Wednesday December 27, 2006 3:48 pm |
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trafire22
Egg
Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 9
Location: New York |
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This question may sound naive, but since I only have one parrot I have never quarentined a bird before. Do I basically just make sure that they are never near each other? I live in an apartment and my Grey has his own room but he has free reign of the apartment. If I keep the new bird in the living room and keep my Grey out will that suffice? |
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Wednesday December 27, 2006 3:54 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
The main concern is passing dieases(sp) from the new bird to the current flock. A vist to the Vet is helpful, but a 30 day septration is best. I know how hard it is living in confined spaces of an Apartment. Most of the problems ("MOST" not all) are passed by poop, others are air born. Do the best you can and keep your fingers crossed that the new bird is truly heathly..
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Wednesday December 27, 2006 4:02 pm |
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shirin
Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 7405
Location: Canada, Toronto |
| Re: Senegal and Grey |
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Originally posted by trafire22
I was wondering if you all thought the same would be true for moving in the other direction? I have a 1 1/2 year old Grey and was thinking about purchasing a senegal (or another smaller bird). My main concern was whether the addition of a second bird at this point would interfere with my Grey's learning to talk?
I have a grey and lovebirds. My grey does talk, but most of her vocalizing is lovebird chirps. |
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Wednesday December 27, 2006 5:41 pm |
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trafire22
Egg
Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 9
Location: New York |
Thanks Shirin,
What did you get first, and if you had your Grey first, how old was it when you got the lovebird. I guess my question reflects my fear that with another bird in the house the Grey will stop learning to mimic human words and will focus on the sounds of the other bird. He is doing so well right now learning new words and phrases, I would hate to ruin that. I would guess that if my Grey was a few years old and really talking with a large vocabulary I would be less worried about this happening, but because he is still young and learning I was just wondering if it might be a problem. |
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Wednesday December 27, 2006 5:46 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
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Originally posted by trafire22
Thanks Shirin,
What did you get first, and if you had your Grey first, how old was it when you got the lovebird. I guess my question reflects my fear that with another bird in the house the Grey will stop learning to mimic human words and will focus on the sounds of the other bird. He is doing so well right now learning new words and phrases, I would hate to ruin that. I would guess that if my Grey was a few years old and really talking with a large vocabulary I would be less worried about this happening, but because he is still young and learning I was just wondering if it might be a problem.
I would say he is going to learn from another bird much easier then from you, I find this true no matter the age. Charlie (YNA) picks up words and nosies very easly. and then not long after he picks up something Misty our (CAG) is right there. Both Charlie and Misty pick up the calls of any new birds very quickly, but they also still spend a lot of time learning from us. Misty is 1.5 years as well. I would not worry about your CAG, he will in all likly hood pick up everything the new bird can teach him, and then turn around and start teaching him some new things. I do not believe your CAG will stop learning from you.
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Wednesday December 27, 2006 5:57 pm |
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shirin
Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 7405
Location: Canada, Toronto |
I had my lovebirds first, and I got my Grey when she was about 5 months old. She still does mimic human words and phrases, but I guess because she's with the lovebirds all day long, and hears them more than she hears me talking, since I'm at school for a big chunk of the day, it's natural for her to pick up their vocalizations more than mine.
I don't think having another bird around will hinder your Grey's learning to mimic humans, just be prepared for him to mimic the other bird too  But from what I understand senegals are rather quiet birds. Lovebirds chirp all day long. |
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Wednesday December 27, 2006 5:57 pm |
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