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Karen
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My DYHA will be eleven in June. He has been with me since he was a baby.
I had planned never to have another parrot so I could devote all my love and attention to Tiki.
Nine days ago, a friend of my son's had all he could stand with his Mealy Amazon. Poor Buzz had been through several homes. The man sounded desperate and I said bring him over. The Buzz stops here. No more new
people and places to adapt to for Buzz.
I knew Tiki would be mad at me and jealous. If Tiki needed a home, I would want someone to give him a permanant & loving home. Of course it is spring and hormones are flaring. At first Tiki tried very hard to lunge at me and bite me. Slowly. I have been giving them each time & attention.
Bringing them a bit closer together. I have had one on each arm.
After a few days I am able to hold Tiki and scratch under his feathers again.
This afternoon I was holding him & he suddenly, unexpectedly lunged and bit me on the lip. I am glad it was more of a warning shot than an angry bite. I had a red mark but no broken skin. Tiki can do real damage when he wants to.
I would appreciate any comments and advise on how to make this work.
Since Buzz has been here his uncontrolled screaming has stopped. I believe he just needed more attention than the man was able to give.
Buzz loves fruit. I can't get him to touch veggies.
Thanks.........Karen |
Wednesday April 4, 2007 3:55 am |
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Fluffy Sue
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Hi Karen, welcome to fluffies! Great that you've become a member.
It's great that Buzz has stopped his screaming.
I think the quality of the attention also matters.  |
Wednesday April 4, 2007 8:11 am |
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Karen
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Thanks for the warm welcome, Sue. I am glad Buzz stopped screaming. I was not so sure how I would handle that. It just was not an issue here. I love spoiling my babies.
Yes, the quality of attention is important too. |
Wednesday April 4, 2007 5:18 pm |
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Cheeta
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Hi Karen
Before Buzz came to live with you, was Tiki unpredictable as well? or is this a sudden change of behaviour because he's jealous of Buzz? I think one of the advice I've read the most regarding introducing new bird/s is that your original bird has to come first in everything that you do... so Tiki is the first to get food, and first to get cuddle time, and first to be let of cage for fly time. So that should give him the sense of being the top bird still.
I have recently only introduced to more major mitchells into my home, and my original cockatoo, Apollo, though they haven't met (the two are still in quarantine), he gets everything first. Even then, he's a bit of an odd one.. I think he knows that there's new birds around, and he's more cuddly than before!! haha.. but I don't think that's actually to do with it.. I think he's just going through his phases.. LOL.
Good luck with Buzz.. you're so wonderful to provide this little guy a forever home. no more adapting to new places and new people. keep us posted with how those two go.  |
Wednesday April 4, 2007 7:09 pm |
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Karen
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Great point. One of the reasons I was concerned when taking Buzz. Tiki, being a double yellow is one of the moodier amazons and spring hormones only add to the situation.
I appreciate your advise and will do my best to spoil Tiki first and give him extra attention. I know a new bird is supposed to be quarenteened. I met Buzz a couple of months ago and believe him to be healthy. I hope I do not regret this.
Tiki loved my teenaged daughter most when she was still living at home. After she moved out she came to visit when we had relatives here from out of state. She went to show off "her bird". She opened the cage door and Tiki dive bombed her biting into her thigh through her jeans. Laura was bruised for a couple weeks.
Despite this, Laura babysits Tiki when I am away. She says after 3 days she can pet him through the bars on the cage. She is afraid to let him out.
Laura is now 23 and married.
I am glad I found Fluffies and I appreciate the input. Thanks. |
Thursday April 5, 2007 12:04 am |
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Cheeta
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OH my, Tiki sounds just like my cockatoo - Apollo!! I mean with the biting part...
When we went away for five weeks holiday, on our return, Apollo wanted notihng to do with me. He just bit the living daylight out of me... but it was over time of being here again that he trusted me again. Mind you, it is never the same again. He has now chosen his Daddy as his favourite.
Tiki does sound like a bird that holds grudges and would act out because of it. I would advice against giving extra attentions to what he was used to already prior to Buzz arriving. This might cause trouble unless you're willing to keep giving him that much attention still afterwards. Just do everything first for him, make sure he knows that he's still top bird. I would say to that to always assume that this two will never get along, that way, you're not going to push little Tiki, or Buzz too much to become friends. Might have dire consequences from that.
Techinally with quarantine, if Buzz was in a one bird home, he was in quarantine all that time... but of course that depends on whether or not the previous owner took precaution or not while they had him in regards to keeping themselves bird disease clean.. like when go out to bird places,do they clean themselves off before going to Buzz kinda thing.  |
Thursday April 5, 2007 4:38 am |
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Karen
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I recently went to Tiki's breeder to buy the pelleted diet. Rhoda had just returned from vacation. She said Chico, her blue front amazon is still mad at her. Every time she goes away Chico misbehaves for at least several days. Perhaps Apollo will come around to you after a while.
My vet told me amazons will strongly bond to one person. Once Laura left he bonded with me. Now he sees Laura as a threat to our relationship. A double yellow is one of the moodiest of amazons. I love & accept Tiki just as he is. I just need to watch his body language & try to determine his moods.
I do not believe Adam was a bird person. I am certain he has not been around other birds. I think one of his family members thought it would be fun to have a parrot and never studied parrot care & personalities. This is how & why Buzz ended up going from one home to the next.
I read & studied a few years before I searched for Tiki and Rhoda is always there if I need her.
Thank you for the warning not to lavish extra attention on Tiki. I will make this work. Neither bird will be passed along unless I die or become seriously ill. I made a commitment that I intend to keep. They do not need to be friends. I just want for each of them to feel secure, loved and happy. |
Thursday April 5, 2007 8:40 am |
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Cheeta
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Well it's been almost nine months since my return from my vacation.. I think he's chosen his preferred human...
Before, he used to come around in a few days after I get home from a work trip, but not anymore... I think I went away too long the last time... He stills cuddles and comes to me, but a lot lot lot more unpredictable when he's on me. He's still very nice to his daddy though.. giving him kisses constantly, and cuddles all the time.. Oh well..
I am sure that you've got everything 'under control'... (are we ever in control of these little feathered kids?!?!?!??! ) all they both need now is lots of love, attention and most of all patience...  |
Thursday April 5, 2007 11:34 am |
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Karen
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Location: NJ |
I am thinking you are right about Apollo having chosen his preferred human.
Now that I am still out of work I have the time to spend and I do have the patience too. Whatever it takes I am determined to make these two wonderful fellows feel happy, loved and secure.
I am excited that Buzz tasted red pepper this morning! I gave them red pepper, jalapeno pepper, cherry tomatoes, red grapes and blueberries.
Soon I will give them their pellets & parrot munchie mix. later I will see what Buzz does with pasta. I know Tiki loves it. |
Thursday April 5, 2007 3:19 pm |
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Cheeta
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hey good to hear that Buzz is eating his fresh veg.. It's so encouraging when they eat veggies and fruit. sometimes it's so hard to get them to eat anything healthy!!! LOL
As with eggs... I've heard that not all hen birds will lay eggs... and I've heard of some laying eggs when she was like 40 year old.. she was a bareeye cockatoo my friend's parents have. so she (if Buzz is female) may never lay egg.. hehe... |
Thursday April 5, 2007 4:17 pm |
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Karen
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Joined: 04 Apr 2007
Posts: 31
Location: NJ |
It is very interesting to learn a hen sometimes will not lay. All the more reason for the trip to the vet.
I choose red pepper hoping it would catch Buzz's eye & he'd try it.
I get happy when he eats the pellets too.
It is difficult sometimes to get me to eat healthy, but I am trying! LOL
I need to set the example. I like being able to share what I eat too. I think it makes my babies feel much closer to me. Much more a part of our flock. |
Thursday April 5, 2007 10:50 pm |
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