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davidraminov
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If anyone knows::do amazons pluck like their fellow greys? As I am thinking of exchanging my grey for a less nervous bird and some people adviced me with the "AMAZON".. Wish anyone could help me on this issue. |
Monday February 13, 2006 3:00 pm |
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Cheeta
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I'm don't know why are you want to exchange your poor grey because you're afraid that it's going pluck? That is kinda unfair on the bird don't you think? Is you grey a plucker? or are you just worried that it is going to pluck?? |
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Monday February 13, 2006 3:13 pm |
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shirin
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 I just answered your other post in the behaviour forum, just so you know, there's no need to post the same questions multiple times in different forums, once is enough.
Birds aren't things that you can just exchange when you're bored with them, or decide you would like a better one. They're living breathing creatures with emotions and needs. Did you not do your research before you got your Grey? Did you not know that they're very emotionsl birds? Why did you get one in the first place if you couldn't deal with their natural personalities? Like I mentioned in the other post, Amazons can pluck too, what will you do then, trade him in for yet another bird?  |
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Monday February 13, 2006 3:54 pm |
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davidraminov
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Hey Shirin, you got no right what so ever to judge me. My bird as I mentioned has spent with me only 2 days and this means that I have not attached to it nor it has attached to me.. I am thinking of the exchange because I suspect it plucks and I paid more than seven thousand pounds till now and can not risk all this money with a bird who due to a trillion thousand reason may pluck which I did not know in advance. I am trying to get the best bird that suits me without harming it nor me. (Neither emotionally nor financially O.K. ??) |
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Monday February 13, 2006 5:37 pm |
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shirin
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I wasn't judging you. I'm just saying, if you can't deal with a bird who plucks then why did you spend over 7000 pounds on this bird to begin with, knowing that Greys are prone to plucking? And what happens if your next bird starts to pluck after 5 years once he's already developed an attachment to you? You know, a lot of birds start plucking after they go through sexual maturity at around 4-5 years of age. Anyway  no need to get angry, I was just being honest with you. |
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Monday February 13, 2006 6:14 pm |
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Chaquita's Mom
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 Whoa guys! Take a few deep breaths. We want to educate and not discriminate each other. David, we understand that some people decide to educate themselves a bit late. It's not uncommon. True, you did post a quite a bit but I understand you probably don't realize that all of us moderators read all new posts. The only ones that we may not read are the species specific ones unless we moderate those or are educated in those particular species. So if you have a question about birds in general, then maybe post once in the General forum, we'll all look at it 
My opinion, if you JUST got this grey and are unsure of it's health and unsure if a grey is right for you AND you paid good money for a healthy bird then I suggest returning. Maybe, before you get another bird right away, do some research on a breed that may be right for you and your financial and living circumstances. We will all help and educate you in making the right decision for you.
Please, don't hesitate to ask more questions. Sometimes our passion in birds can overwhelm us. We want you to be a good parront and the best way to start is to educate. I may have answered some of your questions in the general forum. |
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Monday February 13, 2006 8:47 pm |
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davidraminov
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Thank you very very very much to you all. I really am very thankful that I found that support. By the way believe it or not. I got attached today to my little bird and kind of decided that I will not be able to let go. I think the only thing that makes me a little worried (only worried and not thinking of returning ) is the sneezing .. there is no discharge in eyes or nares but only sneezing some time yes and a lot some time no at all. Just like when someone has allergy. I made sure that the cage is in a place where there is no smelly stuff or anything.. apart from this my heart says I love the sweet little one  [/img] |
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Tuesday February 14, 2006 6:22 pm |
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shirin
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Those Greys just win your heart over immediately don't they?
Actually when I took my bird to the vet about the sneezing thing, he said that it could be allergies to something new in his environment. By the way, mine would sneeze everytime he got excited, and then he would seem out of breath after sneezing a few times and almost gasp for air. Does yours do that? You could also call an avian vet and ask them about this over the phone, just to put your mind at ease
believe me...I might be a little biased here  but after living with your Grey for a while and developing that special bond with him, you'll wonder how you ever lived with out him. My Grey is extremely sensitive, but that's one of the things about her that is so endearing to me. She always knows how I'm feeling, and when I'm sad she's extra sweet to me and does things like preen my hair and ask for extra cuddles. I love her dearly! Good luck to you and your little sweet one Hope the sneezing thing is nothing to worry about. Let us know of any changes. |
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Tuesday February 14, 2006 6:36 pm |
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Chaquita's Mom
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I'm happy to hear that you decided to keep your grey I've always wanted one. Here are a couple more ideas that may be causing excessive sneezing. You don't want to keep your bird close to a vent, hot or cold. The drastic temperature changes from vents can cause many illnesses. If you are running the heat right now, then maybe you need more humidity in your home. It could be too dry and causing him to sneeze.
Well, now that you decided to keep, do you need some basic training? Time and patience is the key to training a bird. For about the first 2 weeks you want to let your bird get used to his surroundings. Keep him in a busy room like your livingroom, family room or dining room. They love to be a part of the family or "flock" No quick sudden movements around his cage as this could startle him and possibly result in injury from flapping or falling off his perch. Talk to him quietly and offer treats. Talk to him while you are doing chores or whatever you might be doing around him. You'll know when he starts to get more comfortable because he'll become more talkative and calling when you aren't in the room. That's another thing, just like a kid, if he starts squacking for you when you aren't in the room, don't run to him at every call. He'll quickly catch on that when he hollars or screams, you'll come running and that could cause a screaming problem
Don't give him an all seed diet. Seed is high in fat and low in nutrition. Seeds should be given as treats or a very small amount of seeds can be mixed with his food. Harrison's pellets are highly reccomended but there are other very good foods out there. Fresh fruits and veggies, not canned should be given daily.
Daily spritzes or showers are almost a must with a grey as they are very dusty birds. Make sure bathing is done early in the day so he has plenty of time to dry before bedtime. A wet bird sent to bed can end up a sick bird.
Hope this is a good start for you phew. Good luck!! |
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Tuesday February 14, 2006 7:13 pm |
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