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mar
Bappie
Joined: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 76
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Got a Yellow Naped and can't say he has bitten at all, he gets a bit scatty sometime
s but he doesn't hurt! Mind you he is still a baby @ 1 1/2 yrs |
Sunday October 8, 2006 9:12 pm |
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danabird
Flier
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 977
Location: Northwest Fla |
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 After Sunny died his buddy Cleo and adopted Orange Wing Amazon I had with him got depressed. I went to move her
and put my hand up like I had always done and told her to step up well she leaned forward and clamped down on the area right where you move your thumb :shock:Well I gritted my teeth and took her as quick as I could down to her perch in her cage and sat her down. I then went into the bathroom and held my hand and cried. Hurt was not the word  Blood going everywhere I wrapped my hand and then went back walking past the cage like nothing had happened. I have never been bit that hard before and don't plan on it again 
Now the other day Romeo had been out long enough and I had to go to work so like everyday I asked him to step up and on the way back to the cage he gave me a good nipe almost at the same area the scar is where Cleo bit me. He did not break the skin but it has left it's mark  On both occasions I know why they bite me, Cleo was depressed and Romeo didn't want to go back in his cage. I told Romeo he was a bad bird and he lifted up his foot from the cge. Well I had to leave on a good note with him so I picked him back up told him he was a good boy, we went to see the pretty birds out the window, then I brought him back to his cage with no problems this time and told him again he was a good boy. I think we should aknowlege the bad behavior except to say maybe " bad bird', but always do something to show what they will get when there is good behavior.
I like to think that Romeo knew what he had done was wrong, then tried to make up by offering his foot again. I let him know by taking him out again that I was not mad with him and we had fun looking at the little birds out the window but mamma had to go so he needed to go in his cage.I always tell him " You can get out tomorrow".
I like to think that if we get bit, what is it that I did to cause it and then I try to fix it. Do amazon bites hurt...@#$& yes Will I get bit again I hope not, but knowing me I will. Sometimes we do things too fast with our birds and they don't understand, I think it's their way of saying "Slowwww Downnn" |
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Thursday October 12, 2006 5:19 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
Zons are known to be unpredictable at times. That is there nature. If you own a Zon and don't get bite at lest once, then you are lucky..
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Thursday October 12, 2006 5:50 pm |
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danabird
Flier
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 977
Location: Northwest Fla |
Romeo has just turned 3 in August so he is still trying things and seeing what my reactions are when he does stuff. As he is getting older he is showing his "macho" side  and I know it's important that I respond the right way.  I know all the signs but every once in a blue moon they will all throw a surprise at ya, and that reminds you " Oh yeah they are birds after all".  They can't think as we do in the reasoning department ( although at times we think they are adults in feather clothing ) so I think it then falls on us to think as a bird would which isn't always easy.  |
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Friday October 13, 2006 5:22 am |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
quote:
Originally posted by danabird
Romeo has just turned 3 in August so he is still trying things and seeing what my reactions are when he does stuff. As he is getting older he is showing his "macho" side and I know it's important that I respond the right way. I know all the signs but every once in a blue moon they will all throw a surprise at ya, and that reminds you " Oh yeah they are birds after all". They can't think as we do in the reasoning department ( although at times we think they are adults in feather clothing ) so I think it then falls on us to think as a bird would which isn't always easy.
Oh you mean you all should be "Bird Brains". Carrie already says that I am....  |
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Friday October 13, 2006 11:15 am |
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luke1
Fledgeling
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Posts: 313
Location: UK |
i think that is a hard question and depends on the individual bird and how you treat him/her.
All parrots can bite hard and amazons are no exception, my amazon rarely has a go at me, you learn to interpret their moods by their eyes and body langauge and can no if they are moody.
I hope you go with an amazon as they are allways doing somthing different.
Luke. |
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Monday November 6, 2006 3:54 pm |
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arlahile
Egg
Joined: 11 Nov 2006
Posts: 3
Location: Fresno, CA |
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I have a 19 yr old DYH of unknown gender, owned since weaning by me. The following is just my opinion.
You can almost always read them, but they still might getcha sometimes. These days I get a quick nip maybe once or twice a year when I'm careless, no big deal, usually just a small bruise or nick. But it wasn't always so...
Only once did my 'zon get me really really badly. I was dating someone new, and following a dinner at my place I was alone, sat on the couch, and my 8 year old birdie calmly walked over and then very suddenly latched onto my lower lip. I could feel the lower mandible slice through the flesh, I reached up to pull her away, she released briefly then bit into me again, slicing into a new piece of flesh. As I grabbed at her bill more firmly to get her off, she also badly bit my fingers. It took a bit of suturing to put my lower lip back together. I couldn't eat solid food for a couple days. Still, my feeling were hurt more than the flesh. The feelings took longer to mend than the flesh, too.
So - what went wrong?
Bird in "puberty" + new love interest = jealous bird. I should have been more aware of potential problems. After dinner, I should have given the bird a bit of loving! But at the time, I was naive about the emotions of adult amazons.
Now my 'zon at 19 is as sweet as can be except for the occasional amazon moment (easy to recognize) and all is well. She's a joy as long as I remember who and what she is. She asks for pets every day and we sing together all the time (I work at home a lot).
The moral: know what you're getting into. People sometimes liken parrots to toddlers, but it's more like toddlers loaded up with sex hormones! Think about that! Respect that, respect your bird as an adult animal, and you'll be fine.
One final note: I read a lot of articles that point out that parrots are not domesticated like dogs, they are wild species. But what does this mean? Domestication has been likened to by some animal behaviorists as arrested development - i.e., dogs act more like wolf puppies than adult wolves. We can't expect our birds to act like juveniles. You don't expect your own children to! Again, it's about knowing what you've got and respecting it.
Dr. Arla Hile
Better living through parrots! |
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Tuesday November 21, 2006 7:06 am |
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Cheeta
Moderator
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7972
Location: Australia |
LOL, I like your comparison... a toddler loaded up with sex hormones!! that's so true!! LOL.
I definitely agree with what you said about knowing what you're getting into. it's so important for the benefits of both ourselves and the birds that will be living with us to have an understanding. |
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Tuesday November 21, 2006 11:49 am |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
I had the pleasure of meeting a lady with a 30 year YNA. She had him for all 30 of those years. When he was 25 years old, she had him on her shoulder just like she had always done (for over 25 years). He turn and took out an eye and ripped open her ceek down to the bone. To this day she does not know why. But she does not trust him on her shoulder anymore. The beck of an Amazon is dangerous, don't ever forget that, and treat it with the respect that you would a sharp knife that can crack a walnut...
She did not tell her story to scare people away from the amazon, just to emphize that they can bite and to respect them for the damage that they can do and chose not to.
John
PS She still has the bird and still loves. Just not on her shoulder... |
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Tuesday November 21, 2006 12:59 pm |
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Egwene
Egg
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 7
Location: Grave |
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I've got a YNA too. Now for about 1,5 years. I adopted him when he was 2 years old. When I got him, he bited. That did hurt, but I never had damage for a long time from him. (My English is not very good, so I hope you will understand what I am saying)
I traint with him for a long time. The biting disapeared. Sometimes, mostly when something has been changed (weather or things in the room) he can fall back in his biting behaviour. But with a ferm training, the biting will stop in a short time.
I think that it is important how you raise an amazone. It is not like having a rabbit that is cute ans easy to handle. You really have to think about how you handle an amazone. I always think, when he bites, what the reason of the biting is. There is always a reason. That can be the way you approach the amazone, but it can also have nothing to do with you. It can be very difficult to find out what the reason is, sometimes it wil take a longer time to find what it is. But when you know, you are a step further of knowing your amazone by caracter and that will help you in the future. |
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