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Lisa
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Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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Hahaha. A pop up ad just came on my screen "AMAZON PARROT RING TONES!". Haha. It struck me as funny.
Ok, why I'm really here: I am the proud mom/mate of a yellow collar mini macaw, Gilligan. He's spoiled rotton, pushy, nips at my fiance, refuses to go into his cageand is lovable and cuddlable....and makes both me and my finace laugh on a regular basis, so he's an overall only-kid, nice... when he wants to be. I just got the book on clicker training. Probably should have gotton that info sooner.
I ran into a situation recently, where I may be taking in a blue front amazon. I know very little about amazons besides what I've read online. I'm told her wings aren't clipped, but she doesn't fly (well, at least not until she gets a glimpse of Gilligans flighted fun). She was never taught to step up, and I'm told she's friendly without health problems (although they don't have the money to get her vet checked for documentation...the previous owner had her checked... it's a teenage girl selling the bird).
I was thinking this could go a few ways. Either both birds love me, and get in jelous fights with eachother and gang up on my man; or they entertain and support eachother as well as more consistant mental stimulation watching one another play and Gilligan's aggression lessens with a larger bird in the house, equally loved; or they could both start to hate me and bond together (though in seperate cages); or they really get brutal, or become buddies. What if I bring in this bird, and Gilligan's not happy? I love to support birds and I want to take this bird in very badly, but Gilli comes first. What if they love eachother a little too much? I don't want to have to re-home this poor bird again, but I know if it all plays out well, the bird would be happy here. My instinct is to grab the bird and take it home right away (who doesn't get a bird to the vet?!?!?!). But if things turn into a nightmare....... also not good.
Any advice from Amazon people.... especially people with Amazons with other birds too? |
Wednesday June 4, 2008 9:27 pm |
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sham1313
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Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Location: California |
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I am not sure how much of a help I can be, but maybe a little. I am new to this forum but not parrots. My husband has a African grey sense 1995 and he is now 31 years of ages. I have a BF amazon. how I got him one of my husband friends called and said there was a parrot in his orange tree. we waited till dark and my husband went up a ladder with little of bit of light. Sweetpea flu to the grown and was not to much trouble Mike caught him and put him in a small cage. he was bit pretty hard a few times threw gloves. I did not like him having him stay in a small cage so for one night I sleep in the living room in my chair so he could sleep on top of his cage. I alerted the African Grey list I was on and told then I found a amazon bird but did not tell them it was a BF. I did on a couple lost and found birds sites. I only got a hand full of e-mail and I ask them to describe the bird and what was one thing different about this bird from any other parrot. they were looking for other kind of amazon but not a BF. one of his nails was totally gone on the back of his feet. what they are really called I can pronouns but I can't even spell close to what the nail and feet are called. the second day we had him mike went to the pet stores and bought a big dog kettle was all we could afford in the middle of the month.
after the 1st came around we took him to the vet and they said he was a bit on the thin side but other then that he was a health bird. I also ask them if they would read and write down the number of the band he had on his leg. that was another I could tell if the original owner do the band no. I would know sweetpea would have went back with the rightful owner. I have had him sense 1999 and think he was about a year old because when he molted it was a ruff one. the feather when they come in have a covering over each feather. when the feather is grown enough. they well preen till the covering comes off. with sweetpea it did not take me long to where I could handel him some. he would duck his head and I would lightly take my finger nail and scratch softly on the covering and it would come off. what I am calling a covering is like a little white tube growing around the feather.
for a amazon sweetpea is not like most other amazons. he is quite mostly except when he is laughing and he get loud. on the other hand shadow makes a lot of noise and can be very loud. we have got him to where he does not screams as much. I carry him mostly on a perch because he has bit very very very hard. when we 1st got him he bit me in the top lip and on the bottom lip.. he does not bite my husband any more. sweepea will bite my husband if he has a chance. my husband has build shadow and sweetpea a little 2 story kind of like house the where they can clime in and hide when they want to. sweepeas is by the front door mike walk in and stop in the door way and sweetpea nip him on his back a little pinch. a lot of times parrots will choose one person they like and some times that person is not the owner. I do not know if this is help you out at all or not. if you like to ask me any question I will try to answer. or maybe tell you where you can fine the answer. it seem to me I was going to tell you a couple more things but it is about bed time I will check back here 1st thing in the morning.
Sharon sham1313
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Originally posted by Lisa
Hahaha. A pop up ad just came on my screen "AMAZON PARROT RING TONES!". Haha. It struck me as funny.
Ok, why I'm really here: I am the proud mom/mate of a yellow collar mini macaw, Gilligan. He's spoiled rotton, pushy, nips at my fiance, refuses to go into his cageand is lovable and cuddlable....and makes both me and my finace laugh on a regular basis, so he's an overall only-kid, nice... when he wants to be. I just got the book on clicker training. Probably should have gotton that info sooner.
I ran into a situation recently, where I may be taking in a blue front amazon. I know very little about amazons besides what I've read online. I'm told her wings aren't clipped, but she doesn't fly (well, at least not until she gets a glimpse of Gilligans flighted fun). She was never taught to step up, and I'm told she's friendly without health problems (although they don't have the money to get her vet checked for documentation...the previous owner had her checked... it's a teenage girl selling the bird).
I was thinking this could go a few ways. Either both birds love me, and get in jelous fights with eachother and gang up on my man; or they entertain and support eachother as well as more consistant mental stimulation watching one another play and Gilligan's aggression lessens with a larger bird in the house, equally loved; or they could both start to hate me and bond together (though in seperate cages); or they really get brutal, or become buddies. What if I bring in this bird, and Gilligan's not happy? I love to support birds and I want to take this bird in very badly, but Gilli comes first. What if they love eachother a little too much? I don't want to have to re-home this poor bird again, but I know if it all plays out well, the bird would be happy here. My instinct is to grab the bird and take it home right away (who doesn't get a bird to the vet?!?!?!). But if things turn into a nightmare....... also not good.
Any advice from Amazon people.... especially people with Amazons with other birds too?
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alexandraatje
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Joined: 05 Dec 2005
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welcome here that is first.
i am the proud owner of 3 amazones, an african grey and two ducorps amazones.
I guess that you worry a bit too much wether they will like each other or not, or only you or not. If i were you, i would give it a try. have it tested on illness and then go for it. you can always keep them in seperated cages and I am sure that they will give eachother a lot of ocmpany when nobody is at home. they can whistle to eachoter. outside the cage you might try to let them be together in a neutral place. in the beginning they will not like each other, but it might come. as long as you pay attention to both equally it should be ok. amazones are social with people and real clowns. they will bring a lot of joy in your house. you can even try to train them seperately to teach them things. stepping up is the easiest thing. |
Friday June 12, 2009 9:08 am |
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Lisa
Egg

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 14
Location: Ohio |
I ended up not bringing home the zon. Since then I've pondered bringing home other birds. I'm still not sure. I know I worry about it too much. I have a feeling that it will be like it was with Gilligan. I'll just
know
when it's right. I hope. I'll be moving this summer so we'll have more room soon. I don't want to spring a move
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a new birdie on my Gilli baby... |
Friday June 12, 2009 2:31 pm |
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sham1313
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Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Posts: 22
Location: California |
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some people have trouble understanding me when I write if you do just ask me to explane it better to you.
I had this almost all wrote and my computer restarted itself before I could copy and safe the message I had wrote to you. I do feel it is important you should here some of what I had wrote. 1st I will give you 2 site witch have help me a lot.
one is http://www.birdtricks.com/ he has books and tapes for a good price. that can help you with almost any situation. the site as a lot of free tips to help us.
there cages are set up to where there is 22 feet between shadow and sweetpea cage's there doors are almost always open but they do need a time out some times just like you would give your kid. most of the time sweetpeas time out lately has to do with there new little 2 story house like thing mike has made them. they are a lot closer together then the cages are. sweetpea always wants to check out shadow house and be the boss of 2 homes not just his. I put him in the cage 15 to 20 mins and if he acts up again I leave him for 5 or ten min more. you talk to them just like you would a kid and they are smart and learn just like kids in a sort of way.
there was a time when mike got up before me and shadow was on one of the perch and sweetpea was on the other side of perch witch is way up on the very top of sweetpea cages. if there would have been any trouble I am a very light sleeper and would have herd the very 1st nose. they spent a few years in there cages and let out at certain times when one or both of us were in there with them. there people that have many birds at one time but I am sure there cage's are not all open at the same time. there are are pictures of BF amazons that I have seen a lot of them playing and walking all over them. most of them are raised together. I cannot recall if I told you how I got sweetpea in the 1st post I did for you. if I did not and you would like to here it just ask. never be scared to any question on parrots or any animals. you may thing it is a dum question but that so called dum question could safe there life. there are thing like chocolate is poison to them apple seeds are too but it would take a lot of them to make then die. chocolate would not take that much of for it to make them very sick or die.
there was a bird name Alex if you do a Google search on him you would fine out he passed away at 31 years old. witch they can live as old as we humans do. he was one very smart bird. new very very many many many words and would talk to you just like a kid and would do home work in a way just like kids do.
http://www.justanswer.com/ that site has a expert on just about any thing. it has help us out a lot with are old American male bull dog that if it would not have been for them Jake would have died. this is at a very low at price if you need it to be. witch I do. you can ask any question you need for as low as $9.00 and if you wished you can pay them as much as you think they should get and more. they do not get paid till you except there answer. you need to write it in away they know if it is and ER situation. if it is and you make a small payment to begin with like $5.00 they will answer your question sooner and they well still not get paid till you click accept.
I did have more wrote to you but I do not have the time now and can not remember all of what I had wrote the 1st time. any questions just ask. they do need a lot of attention from you just like a kids do. they deserve it
Sharon sham1313
very important a lot of smells can kill your bird like brunt Teflon. never do scented candles by them they can cause them to have a hard time breathing. a lot of cooking bags you put in the oven can kill them that has happen a lot. make sure read up on all of that. people of lost there birds after having them for 15 and over 30 years of age as well as a lot of new Born's I read that kind of stuff all the time. I even have a letter that the birdtrick.com has sent me. if you like me to send it I still have the e-mail
Sharon & Mike Hammons,Sweetpea BF Amazon,Shadow African Grey, Sir Jacob Satbation and sugar pine our American BullDogs,(smile) |
Friday June 12, 2009 4:18 pm |
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sham1313
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Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Location: California |
it is good you are doing the clicker training and I know I have told you about this site but when this mail came to me today I thought I share this part of that site again. http://www.birdtricks.com/seminarvideos/ you might pick up a free tip or two.
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sham1313
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Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Posts: 22
Location: California |
i am not sure if this is even going to send because i cannot fine the pg to log into can some one help me please
Sharon sham1313 |
Friday July 10, 2009 11:34 pm |
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sham1313
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Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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I was sure with me being gone as long as I was they would be some new post here I have not had the proper time to spend and do any thing that I like to do on the computer. a lot lately I have been having a lot of computer trouble. that is why now for a few mins I am going to see some of this site. as you all ready know I have a BF Amazon and my husband African Grey and our to husband and wife American bulldogs.
if some one would tell me a good story about one of your bird or birds I would love to here it and would gladly write you back. I have more post here that even the young lady started this here. I tell ya one quick story about my sweeypea the 1st thing I ever herd him say was what our you doing when I was cleaning his cage. that night I had made some little rice ball with certain veggies in it. I gave one to shadow because his change I passed before I got to sweetpea. and when I gave it to him he really went to town on it. when he got threw with the 1st one he was walking and running all over his cages and saying I love dit dot I love dit dot over and over again. of course I gave him another and one more after that. later in the week he was on my knee in my chair and was saying I love dit dot over and over again. I told him one of these days he was going to till me who dit dot was. now here is the kicker. he turn his side ways and said you are. I guess that told me. . that all for now. sham1313
Sharon & Mike Hammons,Sweetpea BF Amazon,Shadow African Grey, Sir Jacob Satbation and sugar pine our American BullDogs,(smile) |
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