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karen71
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Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 11
Location: cumbria |
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hello everybody,,i am new to this forum and new to owning a parrot,,i have a geen amazon i think he is eight months old,have had him about 3and a half weeks,,up to now he has been letting us stroke him and is taking food from our hands, he wasnt hand reared, lately when we have opened the cage he has started going to the side of the cage (only the last couple of days) is this normal cause he never used to do that, he loves having a shower with a spray bottle,, he seems happy on the side of the cage flapping his wings,, we always say hello charlie to him but he doesnt seem to b picking the talking bit up,,we let him out the cage last night,, for the first time took a while to get him back in he wont really go on our hand or a stick in the cage but he did lastnight when he was out,,, has anyone any help on any information i have gave it would b a great help, also do u think i should keep letting him out or leave him to get used to us more first thank u from karen & charlie  |
Sunday August 28, 2005 3:11 pm |
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fionam
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Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Posts: 1757
Location: Surrey, UK |
Hi Karen,
Welcome to this forum, I hope that you learn to love it as much as I do...
Well I think that the thing to do is to try to teach him the step up ALTHOUGH I have yet to teach this to Pi My Pionus... LOL - Pi does it when he wants to... TEE HEE dont they all..
I have not had Parrots that long myself - so I would have a look around the forums and see if you can find what other people have done...
I would be inclined to give him time to come to you... I have found that Pi
will come to me if I am doing something and ignoring him!!
Any way enough of my babble...
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Sunday August 28, 2005 3:25 pm |
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Chaquita's Mom
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Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1028
Location: Pennsylvania, USA |
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Hello Karen and welcome to the forum!! I also have an amazon, yellow nape to be exact. I too am new to parronting but I did a lot of research, so when I got my bird I was ready. You can check out Chaquita in my diary. She's 26 years old and I've had her for 3 months now. 
Moving on, I would recommend getting your birds wings clipped especially if this is your first bird. Training is much much easier. The feathers will grow back after they molt. Then, when you know your bird better and have it trained more, you can decide whether you want to continue with the wing clipping. It can be difficult to train if you have to constantly try to catch it. To them it's a game, "Catch me if you can" which can get discouraging and potentially injure your bird.
You've only had him/her for only 3 or so weeks. You need to determine "who" is going to be the initial trainer as the bird can become confused as each trainer is different to some degree.
To get him to come to you, try using a perch and coaxing him with a treat, letting him know it's okay. You can do the same with your hand after you master the perch. My amazon LOVES peanuts. Just make sure they are unsalted, you can get these at a pet store. Time and patience is the key to parronting. Practice, practice and more practice.
As far as talking, this takes time too. Repeat one or two new words or phrases on a daily basis. Eventially they'll get it, if they want to, and they'll pick up other words in between too. |
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Sunday August 28, 2005 4:38 pm |
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karen71
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Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 11
Location: cumbria |
hi and thank u for ur replies they were really quick,,,i was thinking of getting his wings clipped but think i will have to get him on a stick first to transfer him from his big cage to a smaller one to get him to the vet,,when i try to get him on a stick in the cage he just runs of i dont want to frighten him with it by chasing him around with it,, any suggestiond on this please,, and thanks again for the replies karen |
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Sunday August 28, 2005 4:54 pm |
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Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Hi Karen, welcome here!
I hope you'll enjoy your time here on this chatboard/forum..
You can also add photos by making a homepage or diary, did you see?
Please look here for further details: http://www.fluffies.org/en/viewforum.php?f=32
I'm not really knowledgable about amazon parrots..  |
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Monday August 29, 2005 11:57 am |
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Chaquita's Mom
Experienced flier
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1028
Location: Pennsylvania, USA |
Hi Karen! I think you're still going to come across problems getting him into a cage or carrier if he's giving you this much trouble. You might want to consider toweling him to get him into a carrier or smaller cage.OR you could place the carrier on top of his cage for a little while and let him get used to it and MAYBE he'll start going into it himself. Place some of his favorite treats inside and he'll definately be tempted. If that doesn't work, then towel him. He'll get over it, many people towel their birds. Make sure you cover his eyes with the towel too as it helps keep them calm. The more he gets the best of you the harder it'll be to train. |
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Tuesday August 30, 2005 12:42 pm |
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Patricia James
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Joined: 17 Mar 2005
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Hi Karen,
I am only 20 days into parrot parenting myself, so I don't pretend to be an expert.
My little Red Lored had to be moved from one cage to another, and I didn't want to traumatize him more by toweling. (His previous life was chaotic and cruel.) I wired the opened doors of both cages together. It was early in the morning before his breakfast Then I sprinkled sunflower seeds (the only food he had ever know to that point) in the new cage. Within a matter of minutes, hungry little Max hopped into the new cage lured by the seeds. Well, just a suggestion...
Good luck with your new fid!
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Tuesday August 30, 2005 5:03 pm |
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tiptop
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Joined: 11 Sep 2005
Posts: 15
Location: newcastle upon tyne, uk |
hi karen i to am new to having a parrot i have a orange-winged amazon we have had him nearly 2 wks + we are having similar problems ozzie will come out of his cage eat food out of our hand but goes to bite everytime we put our hand near him the advice about getting the wings clipped his good i also need to get this done so good luck + have fun..claire(tiptop) |
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Tuesday September 20, 2005 3:29 pm |
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karen71
Egg
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 11
Location: cumbria |
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hi everybody,,just a little not to say charlie my green amazon is getting better we r stroking him now first it jus started with tickling his head now we r going further down his back now and again he will have a growl at us even my 10 yr old is stroking him weve had him 6 weeks now,,,weve not tryed to get him on our hand yet, still using the stick,tiptop charlie was the same as u explaine ur bird is it tales a while but u will get there,i would advise getting wings clipped its so much easier especialy if ur new to this like me have u read what happened to charlie when he went to get wings clipped i think its under trip to the vets,take a look,has anyone any suggestions on how to train him to go on our hand,,,and there is still no sign of talking will this just happen one day all of a sudden..i talk to him all the time, i will try and post a piccy of him c if anyone knows how old he is, is there any way to tell how old he is,,,god im waffling on now think ive said and asked enough,,,thank u all..karen and charlie |
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Wednesday September 21, 2005 8:11 am |
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Chaquita's Mom
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Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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Location: Pennsylvania, USA |
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Karen, you say charlie WILL go onto a stick for you and you can get him out of his cage? If so, take him out of sight of his cage and anything you may have around your house that he likes to play. For instance, a quiet bedroom, door closed (if someone else is in the house or other animals that might interfere). Now he is removed from a familiar area and YOU are the familiar thing. His attention and safeness will rely on you now. This is an excellent place for new training. Nothing to distract him. Place him onto your bed. If he doesn't get off the stick, just lay the stick onto the bed. When he get's off, remove the stick and place it on the floor. The stick will be a distraction if it's in his sight. Here you can talk to him in a calm voice and give him head scratches or even stroke his back. Lay your arm on the bed like a perch and ask him to step up. If he tries to move away from your arm, block him from going in the other direction, kinda like herding him towards your arm. If he steps up, praise him and tell him what a good boy he is. Do this a few times, for about 20 minutes doing different things, stroking, scratching, perching, then the session is over. Let him go back to his familiar envirionment and do it again tomorrow. Very soon he should start stepping up right out of his cage.
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Wednesday September 21, 2005 12:51 pm |
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danabird
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Joined: 24 Feb 2005
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Location: Northwest Fla |
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Hi Karen. I have 3 amazons and boy have I lerned a lot about each one of them in the short time I have have them.  The 2 that live outside Cleo I have had just over a year and she is 7 years old. Ramsey is also around that age and I got him in January of this year. they live in a flight cage outside but I still work with them when it's time to eat breakfast. Food is the way to an amazons heart so use it when you can.
My Romeo is just over a year old and boy oh boy what a guy! Just a few weeks ago did he started steping up on my hand. He would go to the T stand then to my hand after a few beaking's then he would step up, then I could put him in his cage. He never would step to me from his cage or the trees stand he sits in. 
I sat close one evening while holding my sun conure and down Romeo comes I stick my hand up there to him and he steps up. What a surprise it was. I got up and put my other bird down and made a big deal about what Romeo did. WEll Romeo just ate all that "good boy" stuff up" and has been doing it ever since when I walk by his cage he will lift his foot up.
Now I take a trip with him when he steps up and we walk around the livingroom then over to the canary cage then I take him either back to put him on his stand to sit or I put him in the cage. So now he doesn't know if he gets to stay out or go in but he needs to go with me to find out
Im still working with the stick training but he wants to scratch his head with the stick and starts to clim on but then swings around and wants to hang upside down so that isn't going to work right now. He will step up to the Tstand stick if I tap it and say "come right here". But I want him to do it onto the stick when I place it in front of him and say step up 
So those things we are working on but i take my time now and just let him see that each time I am not rushing him into doing something that isn't safe for him or something that he is scared of. he is brave but he wants to check things out on his own time "slow" 
The talking part I can tell you I talk to him from the time I uncover his cage till the time I go to work ((9 am to 1:30pm). I tell him stories I sing songs I count numbers (even teaching him 911). If I go outside to feed the other animals or do something else then I put the TV on or a CD on, he hears things all the time while I am home. When I leave for work the raido is on. All of this has paid off because he talks up a storm I listen to him and start my day off laughing (what better way?). He sings a few songs that are not quite correct but it's the way he wants to sing them
Time, time time, give him time and let him grow and learn from you . Think of him as a young baby that does not know anything and you are his teacher, his parent (remember in school how many times it took you to get something right)
Tell him you love him and before you know it he will be telling you the same thing Dana |
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