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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
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We have an issue with our 1 year old YNA (Charlie). This is not a recent development. But he has recently become aggressive over this. He does not want to go into his cage. It started out that it was just a nightly thing. But when we moved Charlie and the other birds into there new bird room (our old living row). We did this to make room for Ann our new Greenwing. (I am not ready to draw anything into this move, but the new baby might be the problem) Charlie is king, head bird, the biggest and the badest thing around (in his mind). He has free reign of the bird room as long as one of us is home and it is not bed time. However recently he has not want to go back in his cage, and he is very adamant about this. So just last week in an attempt to make the cage a bit more desirable place. We have made a new house rule for Charlie. No food outside the Cage. Of course he does everything he can to avoid us seeing him in his cage. But breakfast has taken on a whole new light. (Misty our CAG and Charlie get along fine.) Charlie goes in Misty’s cage and Misty goes in Charlie’s cage to eat. Carrie forces the issue even more by put his treats in his cage as well. But he waits until she leaves the room then he dashes in there gets the treat and heads out to eat it.
Any Suggestions. |
Sunday July 9, 2006 2:31 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
Well I guess there is no hope for charlie..... Nobody has a suggestion that I have over looked? |
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Wednesday July 12, 2006 1:22 am |
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fruitynutbird
Fledgeling
Joined: 03 May 2006
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Location: Sydney, Australia |
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Do you always close the cage door behind him after every time that you've put Charlie back into his cage? If this has been what you've done in the past, he may have learnt to resist you taking him back to his cage, because afterwards, the cage door always closes and he doesn't like THAT very much at all, because he likes being outside so much!
If this is the case, one method you might want to try would be to take Charlie back to his cage a number of times throughout each day WITHOUT closing the cage door behind him after you've put him back in every time. I'm proposing that you just take Charlie, put him back into his cage and let him come straight back outside after most times. (Heheh, this will give you a bit of exercise too, LMAO!!) After a while, he MAY learn that when you take him back to his cage, that this process does NOT NECESSARILY MEAN that the cage door will close behind him, but in fact the process of you bringing him back to his cage is hardly related to the process of the cage door closing behind him or not AT ALL, so he has nothing to dislike about you simply bringing him to his cage. He would have separated his dislike of the cage door closing from his dislike of going back into his cage. Over time, he MAY slowly lose his aversion to you taking him back to his cage.
*crosses fingers*
Good luck! |
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Wednesday July 12, 2006 1:42 am |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
Thank you...
I was going to try just that. Last weekend we (my wife and me) agreed that we were not going to close the door at all (for a while) so now he can come and go as he likes. But all food and water is in his cage... So you know what he is doing..... He gose in Misty cage and eats and drinks.....I have a hard time keeping from laughing. We will try your suggestion, soon
Take care and thank you
John & Carrie.. |
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Wednesday July 12, 2006 1:49 am |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
Oh my goodness! I'm sorry, I know it's not really a laughing matter to you, but I can just picture Charlie running into his cage when no one's looking, grabbing food & running out with it! What a smartie pants  !
I've never had quite the same problem, but FNB offered a good suggestion.
I DO sometimes have problems getting my macaw into his cage at nite, he will grab tightly ahold of my arm with his talons, the perch inside of his cage with his beak, & WONT let go of my arm!! I literally have to scrape him off my arm with my other hand at times! But during the day, he goes in & out of his cage quite a bit. |
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Wednesday July 12, 2006 2:47 am |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
Yes, I know what you mean there to. Ann our GW does not like bed time either. She prefers to just snuggle up in my arm and sleep... Such a beauitful baby. Anyway Charlie spends all his time 24/7 out of his cage. Because he is noy afride of Misty's (our CAG) cage. We have also been thinking about applying FNB suggestion to a new and different cage. We have to Get a Cage for Sarah (BFA baby) soon. So we just get Charlie a New Cage and put Sarah in Charlie old cage.
Wish us luck and thank you.. |
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Wednesday July 12, 2006 5:05 am |
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Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Yikes, I'm sorry I haven't replied to this thread sooner. Sorry!
I don't have problems with my birds not wanting to go to their cages.
Iago is even willing to be put in his tiny carrier, in which he barely fits.. 
I think FNB had an excellent suggestion!
I won't go comparing dogs with parrots but when I had to teach Nenya to come, the trainer told me not to always put the leash back onto her. She'd think that coming included 'end of the fun'.
So I made her come to me and I rewarded her. Sometimes I put the leash back on. 
I think it will work for your birdy.. Try to treat him when he's inside his cage..
If this won't work you can always try a more eleborate way: Target training, then move the target to his cage.. |
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Wednesday July 12, 2006 10:14 am |
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Chaquita's Mom
Experienced flier
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1028
Location: Pennsylvania, USA |
Sorry I haven't had the time to respond to this  better late than never  FNB has a good idea. Here's a couple more. I have a problem getting my YNA off the top of her cage  Anyway, you could also try a treat toy inside the cage towards the back of the cage. That way he has to take effort to get to his treats. But...you will need to find what treat toy dispenser he likes. If you find the right one, then you'll have more time to close his cage door. You could also try to hold a treat from the outside of his cage towards the back to get him in and reward him with another treat after you've closed the door on him. Then he'll learn that once you close his door he'll be rewarded with a treat. also, is it an option for him to just stay in the bird room day and night? There are some people out there that don't even have a cage because the bird room IS the cage
Good luck |
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Wednesday July 12, 2006 6:17 pm |
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