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Michellev123
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| Puberty confusion? |
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I have heard a lot about amazons (esp BFA'S DYH's and YNA's) becoming very hard to handle when they hit puberty
I just wanted to know if any of you knew
1)What age are they when this happens?
2) How long does it usualy last.
3) What the best thing is to do whilst its happening
Thanks again
Cya soon  |
Sunday April 16, 2006 8:46 pm |
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jamaio
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Joined: 12 Apr 2006
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Location: New Orleans, La |
My YNA has been hormonal since the beginning of March. I have only had him for 3 months so I don't know what age this started. Sam is 12 now, he isn't too bad to handle but when he tries to bite I use a stick to put him back in his cage. He has chased everyone through the house and tries to bite what ever he can get his beak on. He has his moods and will let me know when he doesn't want to be bothered but I still love him.
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Sunday April 16, 2006 11:26 pm |
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Cathy
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Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
I don't live with an amazon & don't know at what age they go into puberty, but I think with all birds, it's kind of like teenage people. I realize you don't have any teenagers Michelle  But
a lot
of time, patience, understanding & even more hands on interacting is needed. I think it can actually go on for years, but I'm not sure. |
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Monday April 17, 2006 12:23 am |
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Chaquita's Mom
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Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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I agree with Cathy, time, patience and understanding. Expect the unexpected so you'll never be surprised. Treat the bird like you would a child going through hormonal changes, always love them Be understanding to what kind of changes they are going through. It's easy to get aggitated when you don't understand that it isn't something that you did. It's life, go with the flow and always be there. Know that it isn't your fault why they act the way they do during this period. You'll catch on to what to do. Being able to read your birds body language it crutial.
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Monday April 17, 2006 3:27 am |
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Cheeta
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Posts: 7972
Location: Australia |
hey hey,
I think Amazon hits 'puberty' at around 4... sometimes earlier and sometimes later... and this 'puberty' stays for the rest of it's life...
That sounded really scary.. hehe... generally when bird gets to the hormonal season, they stay that way for up to six months!! You can definitely tell the different in their behaviour with yelling louder and more often and also more bitey. Like others have mentioned, lots of love and patience during this time, but don't spoil him though...
If you can't handle it, I know there's a hormonal shots out there... I think it's called Lupron?? I think, that's off my memory which isn't that good with stuff like that.. hehe... Ask your avi vet about it when the times come..  |
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Monday April 17, 2006 6:34 am |
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Cathy
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Location: Omaha, NE USA |
OMG I didn't know they had such shots for birds! |
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Monday April 17, 2006 11:39 am |
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Kalden
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quote:
Originally posted by Cathy
OMG I didn't know they had such shots for birds!
hahaha...sounds funny when you think of it..
anytime the boy's naughty, give him a jab and he'll be just fine...hehe  |
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Wednesday April 26, 2006 12:27 pm |
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Kalden
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Location: Singapore |
| Re: Puberty confusion? |
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quote:
Originally posted by Michellev123
I have heard a lot about amazons (esp BFA'S DYH's and YNA's) becoming very hard to handle when they hit puberty
I just wanted to know if any of you knew
1)What age are they when this happens?
2) How long does it usualy last.
3) What the best thing is to do whilst its happening
Thanks again
Cya soon
1) like what other says...around 4-5 years old
2) I heard it can be several days to several months...I believe the weather plays a part as well. I observed my bf zon getting more pricky when its sunny, warm and humid. think over in temperate regions, they might be hormonal during summer? I'm not too sure though.
3) whats the best thing to do...like what others have already said...patience, understanding and consistency...and be cautious not to get bitten as well!
its a roller coaster ride with these guys...a love-hate relationship really.
there's times when my bf zon will ever so gently play with my fingers and purr like a cat when i preen him.
then there are times when he just feel like all the humans own him several mouthful, deep and hard bites.
just got to take them in stride and remain cool...its having one fiery zon is really hot enough. |
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Wednesday April 26, 2006 12:33 pm |
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Michellev123
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Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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| Re: Puberty confusion? |
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There's times when my bf zon will ever so gently play with my fingers and purr like a cat when i preen him.
then there are times when he just feel like all the humans own him several mouthful, deep and hard bites.
just got to take them in stride and remain cool...its having one fiery zon is really hot enough.
Lol that sounds about rite!!!
Thnaks for all your help
Michelle and Harley |
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Wednesday April 26, 2006 4:17 pm |
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Jrmno1
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Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
Hi,
This is what we have found out, the hard way.... When they start to get 14+ hours of day light that triggers things and they last 3 to 6 months.. So we started to use artffical (full spectrum) light on a timer set to give the bird room 12 hours of light... We hope that next year we won't have as much trouble as this...
hope this helps.... oh one good thing it only happens once a year....
John & Carrie. |
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Saturday July 8, 2006 4:27 am |
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Kalden
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quote:
Originally posted by Jrmno1
Hi,
This is what we have found out, the hard way.... When they start to get 14+ hours of day light that triggers things and they last 3 to 6 months.. So we started to use artffical (full spectrum) light on a timer set to give the bird room 12 hours of light... We hope that next year we won't have as much trouble as this...
hope this helps.... oh one good thing it only happens once a year....
John & Carrie.
this is insightful
in fact, Bodhi's now in his horny and thorny season
and we can only handle him using a stick and preening him through the cage bars--as long as there is something his beak can sink into to expend his fustrations
although daylight can eb one of the environmental factors that trigger zons into breeding mode
its hard to say exactly what does it for individual bird
it might be an object, it might be another bird, it might be the climate 
nevertheless its good to know about the possibility of these aggressive periods so we can be prepared for them
glad that john and carrie know whats the trigger
I still haven't figure out Bodhi's
as we live in the tropics, where daylight hours is the same
perhaps its the lighting in the home? |
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Saturday July 8, 2006 2:42 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
Well, as far as
puberty
goes, I think that can last for years, at least in macaws. As far as
mating season
, that's different.
Does the climate change at all there where you live Kalden? |
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Saturday July 8, 2006 2:57 pm |
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Kalden
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Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Posts: 181
Location: Singapore |
quote:
Originally posted by Cathy
Well, as far as
puberty
goes, I think that can last for years, at least in macaws. As far as
mating season
, that's different.
Does the climate change at all there where you live Kalden?
mm...it can be divided into 2 main monsoonal seasons, a more dry and warm period in the middle of the year and a wetter and cooler season that correspond to the winter to spring period in the Northern hemisphere.
so now's the warmer period |
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Sunday July 9, 2006 4:21 am |
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Chaquita's Mom
Experienced flier
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1028
Location: Pennsylvania, USA |
You really can't change when your bird goes through the mating season. It's like an instinctual switch that goes off. All animals just "know" when it's time no matter how warm or cold or how much daylight there is. You just have to work through their hormonal issues and try to make it better for both of you (parrot and parront). It CAN get annoying at times and frustrating but that's all a part of being a parront  You want to sit and play and they want to be nasty and bite. Kinda like raising a teenager Zon's can be quite tempermental at times but you have to expect that from them. Each species of parrots are different and each subspecies has differences.
All you can really do is ask what others do when hormones flare and how they cope and deal with it to make it better. You can also do research on it. |
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Wednesday July 12, 2006 6:30 pm |
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Kalden
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Originally posted by Chaquita's Mom
You really can't change when your bird goes through the mating season. It's like an instinctual switch that goes off. All animals just "know" when it's time no matter how warm or cold or how much daylight there is. You just have to work through their hormonal issues and try to make it better for both of you (parrot and parront). It CAN get annoying at times and frustrating but that's all a part of being a parront You want to sit and play and they want to be nasty and bite. Kinda like raising a teenager Zon's can be quite tempermental at times but you have to expect that from them. Each species of parrots are different and each subspecies has differences.
All you can really do is ask what others do when hormones flare and how they cope and deal with it to make it better. You can also do research on it.
thats a good idea...sharing how each of us cope when our zons are in heat
I resort to using a stick to get the guy around
and if out on a play gym, I'm careful not to put him together with his other bird companion, Manju |
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