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cristia
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Hello parrot lovers, im not cristia but her husband and using her account.
So to the point.We have Rosie a galah cockatoo for 3 years now.Many thinks has change and i manage to stop the bitting and aggressive attitude alot.Now she (female) gets angry only if she see unknown women near me!!If she is in good mood she does thinks that a dog do  .Like obeying to commands as come here (fly on my hand), go in cage and know the meaning of NO or inside or lets go out and many others commands.
The good part is this, the bad is that our jobs are getting more demanding and need more of our time.So we were thinking of buing one other bird for company to Rosie.
But, what bird we should buy?What age what race and what gender?Rosie is about 5 years old and a year now she do mating things (horny).She is also jealus to me, will this matter if we buy mate one?Is possible a breeding situation with another cockatoo?(other race) or maybe with a african grey?and at last will this thing will work to have 2 happy birds?
thanks in advance for any advice.
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Saturday May 26, 2007 7:56 pm |
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jletaz
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| Re: 3 years with Rosie, looking to find her some company. |
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Originally posted by cristia
Hello parrot lovers, im not cristia but her husband and using her account.
So to the point.We have Rosie a galah cockatoo for 3 years now.Many thinks has change and i manage to stop the bitting and aggressive attitude alot.Now she (female) gets angry only if she see unknown women near me!!If she is in good mood she does thinks that a dog do .Like obeying to commands as come here (fly on my hand), go in cage and know the meaning of NO or inside or lets go out and many others commands.
The good part is this, the bad is that our jobs are getting more demanding and need more of our time.So we were thinking of buing one other bird for company to Rosie.
But, what bird we should buy?What age what race and what gender?Rosie is about 5 years old and a year now she do mating things (horny).She is also jealus to me, will this matter if we buy mate one?Is possible a breeding situation with another cockatoo?(other race) or maybe with a african grey?and at last will this thing will work to have 2 happy birds?
thanks in advance for any advice.
Thanasis
Hi Thanasis,
First, I'd think about another fairly independent, easygoing species, then get another cage for it. Please do not get a male and let them mate. It will potentially cause very difficult and complex behavior in these large parrots and be hard to handle in the house. Also, have you thought about what if they gave you fertile eggs? If you are not a knowledgable breeder with your whole day available, you will be in way over your head. Also, there are already more than enough unwanted pets being bred by amateurs all the time, and that is sad. Please just get another separate pet. Caged side by side, they will still keep each other company.
It sounds like since you have trained Rosie the way you have, you have the experience for another larger pet bird. How about a Timneh Grey? They are a beautiful dark gray and about the size of the Galah. I don't know how available they are in Greece, but the Timneh are generally a bit easier to keep and don't tend to develop the neurotic behavior or plucking nearly as easily as the Congo Grey. Most of the Cockatoos need more time and attention at home, but there are many people that I know who work full time and have Cockatoos at home who are well adjusted and used to the routine. Just as long as they are shown how to be independent early on, some of the species like Bare Eyed Corella, or another Galah should be okay. Pionus are very independent and lower maintenance parrots that make wonderful pets. Some of the smaller Amazon females would be great in this situation too. I say female, because some of the male Amazons can get dangerous during the breeding season and dealing with that is probably something you don't need in your life when you are very busy!
If you consider a smaller bird, there are many species which would be appropriate too.
Good luck... let us know what you decide on.
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Saturday May 26, 2007 8:46 pm |
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shirin
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Hi there,
I have to disagree with Julie on this one, sorry Julie  , I think that all birds are
a lot
happier with members of their own species. If you get another species, it's very likely that they won't get along, and I don't think it's enough to just have another bird in a seperate cage. In the wild, flock mates are constantly preening, cuddling, and feeding eachother. They really thrive on physical contact and affection. If you get another species of parrot, you could end up with two birds who hate eachother, and now you have two birds on your hands that aren't getting enough attention and physical contact, and that you don't have time for. Please when making this decision, think about what will make your bird the happiest, rather than what other type of bird
you
would enjoy having.
I don't believe sex matters, because I've seen same sex parrots of same species bond with eachother before, but I would ask a cockatoo expert about that one. But also if you get one of the opposite sex, breeding doesn't have to be a problem. You can simply take the eggs away as soon as they're laid and replace them with fake eggs.
There really are no parrot species that are independant. Just because they may not show outward signs such as plucking or screaming, it doesn't mean they're happy being alone. I bet if you saw those birds in their natural habitat within their flocks, they would never be independent or alone. So I think it's unfair for people to get these parrots that have been labeled "independent", and then leave them alone in a cage for 8-10 hours a day, and think oh they're fine, because they're not plucking. Also, with Timnehs, it's not that they are less neurotic or less prone to plucking, it's just that Timnehs are not as common as Congos, so naturally there are less cases of neurotic behaviour seen or reported.
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Sunday May 27, 2007 2:45 am |
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jletaz
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Shirin,
I DO totally agree with you that birds are happier with their own species I just didn't think that Thanasis and his wife wanted to get another Galah. Also, he expressed how busy he and his wife were becoming with work, so I thought the potential of having babies would just complicate things for them, and make them even more busy  . Besides, since larger parrots can become aggressive when breeding or brooding, and to have that in the house, yikes  ? But yeah, you could just take the eggs away.
I was trying to keep in mind how busy they were... That's all I meant 
Maybe they could get another female Galah? I was under the impression he wanted a different species. The bird would probably be thrilled to have another Galah.
Actually, Robin became very depressed and angry when he found out he had to share his life with other birds again. It took him about a year to accept it... but I hear you Shirin, although he is adjusted to home life, if he had ever known what it was like to be free (or wild in a spacious aviary) with a mate, he would have chosen that, because it would have only been natural. Most of our captive pets have no idea what it really means to be a bird. Keeping parrots as house pets period, is as much a controversy in itself, as I know you well know that.
Julie 
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Sunday May 27, 2007 4:54 am |
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Cheeta
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Well in my opinion, as much as I love birds, I think keeping birds of ANY sort if a bit of a controversy, so not just parrots.
But since captive bred and kept birds probably won't do too well in the wild, I'm just doing my best to keep my flock happy. Is that cruel? I don't know, but anyway, that's not the topic here.
Thanasis... Welcome back to Fluffies. Good to hear that little Rosie is coming a long nicely, and you both have done such a great job with her.
now to your question. I think if you want to get another bird, it will have to be that YOU BOTH want the bird, NOT because you think that the bird will keep Rosie company and be friend with Rosie while you guys are at work. They might not even like each other, especially Rosie has been in a one bird household for at least three years (I said at least because I forgot how old she is, or if you were the only owner. ). I have a very good example here at my home. Apollo has been with me for the last two and half years, and we recently brought how two new cockatoos, and till this day (two months later), I still don't see the day that Apollo will even come to liking Athena and Achilles. I don't have their cages next to each other, I think I'd get screaming matches all day long! Soooo in saying that are you willing to deal with having two birds that hate each other, and also, twice the amount of work and time required to look after the both of them? twice the amount of money needed to everything they need.. toys, foods, vet fees, etc etc...
Anyway, if you two are willing to put in the work even if both birds hate each other, then I would say another galah would be nice for Rosie, but really, i think any two birds can get on well. But I do believe that there are higher chances of Rosie getting on with another rosie than another species of cockatoos or parrots.
Good luck. Please do let us know what you guys decided on. |
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Monday May 28, 2007 4:50 pm |
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shirin
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quote:
Originally posted by Cheeta
Well in my opinion, as much as I love birds, I think keeping birds of ANY sort if a bit of a controversy, so not just parrots.
But since captive bred and kept birds probably won't do too well in the wild, I'm just doing my best to keep my flock happy. Is that cruel? I don't know, but anyway, that's not the topic here.
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Bih, I don't know if your comment was directed at me, but if it was I think you may have misunderstood my comment
I wasn't saying that keeping parrots, or other birds is cruel.
First I recommended a same species bird, because I truly think the chances of the birds getting along and being able to share a cage are a lot higher if they are same species, and the birds will be happier. Keep in mind that Thanasis is looking to get a companion for his cockatoo because he and his wife are getting busier and not able to devote as much time to their bird. What would be the point in getting another bird if it's just another pet for them, and not a suitable companion for their parrot? That would only double the time they would need to devote to their birds, and they already don't have enough time for one.
Second, when I talked about keeping a single parrot because they're known to be independant, I wasn't trying to say that every person who keeps a single parrot, like you with Apollo, or myself with Bunny, is doing injustice to that bird. What I meant was that there's this misconception that certain birds are independant birds and are fine left alone, and so these types of parrots, for example pionus, and senegals are usually recommended to people who are going to leave them alone by themselves in a cage for 8-10 hours a day. And that is what I have a problem with. All I'm saying is that if you have a single bird, the way a lot of us do, you owe it to that bird to spend a lot of time with him and in essence be a companion to that parrot. And if you can't devote a lot of time to your bird and you're working long hours, than you owe it to your bird to get him another companion, regardless of whether they are a needy cockatoo, or a reserved pionus.
Does that make more sense? ... ok I'm a nerd, because I just reread my original post and I didn't say anything about keeping parrots being cruel, so now I'm not so sure if your comment was directed at me..  Please clarify this for me  |
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Monday May 28, 2007 5:44 pm |
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Cheeta
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no, it wasn't directed at you actually... hehe... I was reading Julie's post where it said keeping parrots as a house pets is a controversy in itself, I was just adding my opinion... not directing my comment at Julie either.. hehe... Just adding as it was part of my thinking at the time.
And what I said to Thanasis, is pure that, my opinion and thoughts and what I've learnt about parrot/bird keeping. Not directed at you at all. 
And oh if you read my last paragraph, I am in essense agreeing with you that same species would be better with a higher chance that they'll get along better. |
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Monday May 28, 2007 5:59 pm |
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shirin
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ok don't mind me, I'm a dork |
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Monday May 28, 2007 6:10 pm |
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Cheeta
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hehe, it's all good girl. |
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Monday May 28, 2007 6:25 pm |
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jletaz
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quote:
Originally posted by Cheeta
I think if you want to get another bird, it will have to be that YOU BOTH want the bird, NOT because you think that the bird will keep Rosie company and be friend with Rosie while you guys are at work. They might not even like each other, especially Rosie has been in a one bird household for at least three years (I said at least because I forgot how old she is, or if you were the only owner. ). I have a very good example here at my home. Apollo has been with me for the last two and half years, and we recently brought how two new cockatoos, and till this day (two months later), I still don't see the day that Apollo will even come to liking Athena and Achilles. I don't have their cages next to each other, I think I'd get screaming matches all day long! Soooo in saying that are you willing to deal with having two birds that hate each other, and also, twice the amount of work and time required to look after the both of them? twice the amount of money needed to everything they need.. toys, foods, vet fees, etc etc...
YES. I agree with this. It's hard to deal with the jealousy, and personally I've never had birds who like each other, so it is a chance you have to take whether or not they will get along. If Rosie has been alone for so long, she might resent another bird? As Bih said, if they don't end up being friends, you will have twice the amount of work with 2 birds If you want to do it, maybe another Rosie will be a good choice.
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Monday May 28, 2007 7:02 pm |
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jletaz
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quote:
Originally posted by Cheeta
Well in my opinion, as much as I love birds, I think keeping birds of ANY sort if a bit of a controversy, so not just parrots.
But since captive bred and kept birds probably won't do too well in the wild, I'm just doing my best to keep my flock happy. Is that cruel?
Yes, I think also, that once a bird is not only captive bred, but handraised and imprinted on humans as a tame house pet, they become dependent on us for their survival. They would not know what to do in the wild, so in that case, the best we can do is provide it happiness in the only way of life it knows. Well taken care of and spoiled pet parrots are happy if they do not know any different. I think it is the birds that are essentially wild (not handraised, or wild caught and still skittish) that it is not right to keep them in a house pet situation. For them it is stressful and unhappy.
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Monday May 28, 2007 7:10 pm |
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cristia
Just hatched
Joined: 30 Aug 2005
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Location: athens greece |
Hello all!!
Nice to hear from u all again. Sorry its been so long. Wow we are kind of confused now. I think that we should get another rosie male, and see how it goes . I think Rosie and her new pal will be fine. I quit my job and paid 5 months in advance all my bills so I can stay home and have more time with Rosie, thanasi and our new Galah. I hope he will grow to like me more than Thanasi hehe. Thanks for all your help.
Talk soon!!
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Monday May 28, 2007 8:07 pm |
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Cheeta
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Hi Christiana... welcome back...
you quit your job? wow, that's commitments to the birds... Good luck with the new bird whenever you get it. please do keep us posted as well with the progress too. |
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