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| Which Too is Tops? |
| Moluccan |
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0% |
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| Umbrella |
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10% |
[ 1 ] |
| Sulpher crested |
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10% |
[ 1 ] |
| Goffins |
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10% |
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| Galah |
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30% |
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| Bare Eyed |
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30% |
[ 3 ] |
| Blue eyed |
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| Slender Billed |
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10% |
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| Major Mitchell |
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megnriley
Just hatched
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Location: Gainesville, Fl |
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This is all very theoretical...and in the very distant future...but.......
I have a tiel who is the best thing since sliced bread...I really can't say enough about the little fluffy (visit my homepage if you are in any dout hehehe)...but I have always been very very very drawn to cockatoos...and when my life becomes a little more normalized (i am currently in grad school and raising a young child) I would love to have one...we're talking several years down the road here 
Seeing as I am an enormous planner (I researched tiel breeders for almost a year before finding a rescue and adopting my Kozmo) I wanted to start theoretically thinking about what type of 2 might be best for me. From the research I have done I am leaning towards the bare eyed or blue eyed..But I would love to get the oponions of all you 2 experts out there!!
I am very dedicated to my animals and am looking for a bird to grow old with - one that will enjoy basking in my attention (esp after my son get more independent and leaves me with empty nest syndrome) I understand that 2's are mesy, demaniding, loud, and occasionally nerotic but I am fully prepared for that..and looking forward to it!
I am also intereasted to know if any of you have experience living with a too and a tiel in the same house - Kozmo is young, and god willing, I will have him in my life for the next 20 years - so I certainly would not want to endanger him in any way by bringing a meany into the house (needless to say any interaction would be closely supervised!!)
Ok - sorry that was sooo long - Consider me a sponge, ready and waiting to soak up all your wisdom and advise!!!!  |
Friday April 6, 2007 1:48 am |
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Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Hi there!
I've spent some time on your homepage.. And I agree your little crested Kozmo is a cutie! 
I applaud (I hope that doesn't sound strange, if so, please remember that I am Dutch and can't always find the proper words) for you for doing so much research.
If I'd be honest, I'd never recommend a cockatoo at all.. That may sound strange.
But if you insist on having a too, and I think you're quite responsible  I would choose a smaller too. Though I'd love to see blue eyed cockatoo pics, I don't know about their personality. (By the way, the blue eyed is my favorite hehehe)
Perhaps blue eyed are similar to umbrella cockatoos when it comes to character and those are disrecommended.. 
If you'd really want a blue eyed, I'd recommend having a consult at an avian behaviorist, to prevent problems in the future. Preventing is better than curing.
I think you should always supervise a cockatoo & tiel together (as you said), because of the huge size difference. If you'd assume they can't get along it can only go better! (I mean: If you are ok with a cockatoo being a meany, and willing to seperate those two, then I think you're ok..) |
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Friday April 6, 2007 7:53 am |
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NakedDogMom
Fledgeling
Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 312
Location: Ohio |
I have a Goffin's. That would be why I didn't choose that as your first too! lol
From everything that I heard, Galahs are just super sweet and pretty relaxed for toos. I know quite a few people who have them (both rescued and hand raised) and they just love them. Pretty quiet, not too needy.
Now don't get my wrong, I love our Serafina......but she's SUPER active, NEVER sits still, and constanly needs something to destroy! So when she's out, I need to always watch her since she's on her play stand, on her cage, flying into the living room, landing on the curio cabinet, on the floor, biting the dogs, attacking the cats, biting my husband, on the cage again.....well, you get the picture! |
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Friday April 6, 2007 9:40 am |
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shirin
Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 7405
Location: Canada, Toronto |
Hi I chose bare-eyed because they are so cute and funny and I think they are one of the more independant toos? I definitely would NOT recommend any of the bigger toos especially U2, M2, and Blue-eyed, to anybody. I just don't think they do well in captivity, no matter how well you take care of them. Well, to tell you the truth I wouldn't recommend any too to anybody, unless you're really willing to devote most of your life to a bird that acts like a 2 year old child for the rest of your life. I don't know, but from what I've heard from other too members, once they reach adulthood and get hormonal, living with them is more misery and hassle than it is fun. I almost had an Umbrella cockatoo, but when my ex-boyfriend and I split up, I had to give the bird to him. At the time I was really broken up about it, but now I'm soooooo THANKFUL that I don't have him. When you get a large cockatoo, basically your life stops being about you, and it becomes about the too. Just my opinion |
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Friday April 6, 2007 1:32 pm |
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jletaz
Experienced flier
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 1286
Location: CA, USA |
Actually, I think any of the Toos are higher maintenance than other parrots, but I think a lot of people here know how much I love the slender billed like Bih's Apollo! They are very hard to come by here. The Bare Eyed are very similar and a little smaller which I like, and they are so goofy and cute. The Bare Eyed are said to be more independent than many of the other toos. The Rose Breasted might be a good bet for a first too also. I don't think ANY of them will be easy though!
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Friday April 6, 2007 8:15 pm |
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Cheeta
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7972
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I picked Galahs... that's because I think they make a better first too in comparison to the other ones. I personally love the bare eyed.. I have the bigger version of it. and he's such a clown and a doll at the same times. but I don't think he's type is good as first time big bird. He was my first time big bird, he is my second big bird. My first big bird was in fact a galah (actually he was my hubby's, but we bought him together), I loved him dearly until someone took him away from us.
Our lives do revolve around our cockatoos, but I don't mind it. They are a lot of hard work, I'm not going to deny it. But do I love my cockatoos? Yes absolutely.. Would I do it again if I could, I absolutely would. A lot people would have said 'forget it'... Cockatoos do take a lot of time, and to be honest, I don't think cockatoos are everyone's game, which is why I think there's such a huge problem with rehoming birds. Apollo is one in a million in my mind, he's happy by himself, and he's happy to be with us. He plays like a puppy would with his daddy, and he plays by himself when we can't play with him.
Zac (our stolen galah) he was one of the biggest clown around I've met, and he was very independent. No where as noisy as Apollo is for sure, and can be a cuddle bug. If raised right, they can be taught to be NOT a velcro bird like a lot of the bigger cockatoo.
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Friday April 6, 2007 8:36 pm |
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jletaz
Experienced flier
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 1286
Location: CA, USA |
Yeah, I agree Bih! I don't think the Slender Billed are a good first big bird either. I had to vote for my fave too though  I'd say Rose Breasted (Galah) also... They have that different type of voice and aren't even that loud.
A Rose Breasted was one that I looked into before getting Gryffin... they have THE SOFTEST feathers out of any parrot species, hands down! My Red Bellied comes pretty close though Gryffin the Eclectus is actually not soft at all
If I could put another vote above as the best choice maybe for a first large bird, I'd say Rose Breasted
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Friday April 6, 2007 9:33 pm |
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shirin
Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 7405
Location: Canada, Toronto |
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Originally posted by Cheeta
I picked Galahs... that's because I think they make a better first too in comparison to the other ones. I personally love the bare eyed.. I have the bigger version of it. and he's such a clown and a doll at the same times. but I don't think he's type is good as first time big bird. He was my first time big bird, he is my second big bird. My first big bird was in fact a galah (actually he was my hubby's, but we bought him together), I loved him dearly until someone took him away from us.
Our lives do revolve around our cockatoos, but I don't mind it. They are a lot of hard work, I'm not going to deny it. But do I love my cockatoos? Yes absolutely.. Would I do it again if I could, I absolutely would. A lot people would have said 'forget it'... Cockatoos do take a lot of time, and to be honest, I don't think cockatoos are everyone's game, which is why I think there's such a huge problem with rehoming birds. Apollo is one in a million in my mind, he's happy by himself, and he's happy to be with us. He plays like a puppy would with his daddy, and he plays by himself when we can't play with him.
Zac (our stolen galah) he was one of the biggest clown around I've met, and he was very independent. No where as noisy as Apollo is for sure, and can be a cuddle bug. If raised right, they can be taught to be NOT a velcro bird like a lot of the bigger cockatoo.
Good luck.
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Friday April 6, 2007 9:47 pm |
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megnriley
Just hatched
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Location: Gainesville, Fl |
Thanks for all your great advise.....I've read more about all the birds you mentioned..and have yet to make up my mind..of course I have a looonnggg time to decide..this is nothing to rush in to!
The only decision I have reached is ...no big too's - so i've ruled out the molocans and umbrellas for sure! |
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Sunday April 8, 2007 11:49 pm |
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jletaz
Experienced flier
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 1286
Location: CA, USA |
I think the Rose Breasted (Galah) and Bare Eyed would be the best size also... At least the Bare Eyed in the US are much smaller than the Australian ones. The Aussie ones seem to be large birds about the size of the Slender Billed which are near the weight of an Umbrella.
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Monday April 9, 2007 4:08 am |
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birdie puppy's mom
Bappie
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
Posts: 56
Location: NW Indiana, USA |
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I have a rescue Quaker Parrot, who shows no inclination to allow anyone to touch him at all...except the pointed end of his beak of couse  and Got a U2 the day before Christmas Eve last year, and he is an absolute doll!! He has his moments and sometimes a full day, don't get me wrong, but the rest of the time when his moods are his "normal" he is the most affectionate, and cuddly, enteraining bird I have ever known. I just keep trying to work with Colonel (the Quaker) and hoping that he will learn from observing Cry Baby (the U2), that I have no intention of ever hurting him. I spend abou 1/2 hour a day with him toweled, talking very softly and stroking his head and back, but so far no progress. There was however one bit of hope given, a month ago when Colonel soemhow escaped his cage and landed on my sewing machine cabinet. He sat so quietly that I never knew he was out till I turned to leave the room, and noticed that there was a bird sitting there that looked just like Colonel in that (gasping) EMPTY cage over there! After deciding t hat simply picking him up was a guarantee to get bitten or eaten alive I put my hand down and said "step up" and to my surprise he did! I began to lift him, and he took off flying and landed on top of CB's cage. Once again he stepped up when commanaded and I got him back in the cage! Don't worry though, the next day I treied to get him out, and got attacked again, so he is back to nrmal. |
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Monday April 9, 2007 6:42 am |
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jletaz
Experienced flier
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 1286
Location: CA, USA |
I think maybe Colonel stepped up when he did, because he was in an unfamiliar place. Usually when a bird is out of it's familiar territory, it will not act as bold, and step up since you are what is familiar in the room. That's why they say to train in an unfamiliar room. If the bird is wild or extremely untrusting, this doesn't work, but it does seem to work when the bird is tame, and just needs to learn. Good luck with him
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Monday April 23, 2007 1:23 am |
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birdie puppy's mom
Bappie
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
Posts: 56
Location: NW Indiana, USA |
Thanks Julie, for your advise about Colonel. He is less
aggressive
by far with my husband, but doesn't really
like
him. I am continuing working with Colonel but after reading your post I have another question. If I take him into another room, will he be less likely to bite, so that perhaps we can get past some of that? I have to admit that I tire eventually anyway, of being a pin cushion. As for Crybaby, he is my first truly
big
bird, and even though I have only had him 4 months, we have bonded and are getting along just - I simply adore him.
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Monday April 23, 2007 3:15 am |
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jletaz
Experienced flier
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 1286
Location: CA, USA |
Hmm, if Colonel has a biting problem, it might or might not deter him depending on his reason for biting. Try it... I think all around he just might be different in an unfamiliar room. Let us know what happens
So you went from a Quaker to a U2? That IS a big difference! I myself have gradually gone a little larger with every bird. I've had birds for 15 years now, and I am just only recently ready for my first big one (my Slender Billed coming). My Eclectus is so far the largest I've had, and she is actually considered medium at under 400 grams.
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Monday April 23, 2007 3:58 am |
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birdie puppy's mom
Bappie
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
Posts: 56
Location: NW Indiana, USA |
I have seen an Eclectus Parrot before and in fact had a chance to own one, but ever since I watched my first "Beretta" show and saw "Fred", a U2 has been my dream bird. The first time met my CB, he bit me, and drew blood! However, I am patient and stubborn, so went back a week later to the breeder, and insisted that I wanted to hold him. He actually jumped to my arm from the breeders daughter's from about 5 inches away, and had hardly touched down, when he regurgitated a piece of food onto my hand. I knew what that represented and was hooked! The breeder said he has rarely seen any bird do that so soon. Now he greets my youngest Boxer witha nice "Hi Baby!" nearly every time he walks into my den, and for some reason addresses my older Boxer "Hi Pretty Bird!" just about as often. Needless to say, I am in LOVE with my crazy U2.
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