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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
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Location: Canada |
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I think my senegal is plucking his pin feathers out. I have been noticing pin feathers (still in sheaths) stuck to the cage bars. I have also noticed scabs on the back of his neck and blood on some of the surrounding feathers.
He is blad around his neck and under his wings due to feather plucking in his previous home. He had a small filthy cage there and a all seed diet, with a few dirty chewed up toys.
He has everything he wants and needs here. Top notch care. He has an enourmous cage thats meant for larger birds like greys and tons of toys. His food is pellets, some seed, dried fruit, nuts and corn, and chickpeas and more. He also gets fresh fruit and veggies, and healthy table food. He gets showered with attention. His bedtime is 8:00, so he gets enough sleep. He is spoiled and I mean SPOILED!!!! I am going to be really really upset if he is plucking because he doeasn't like it here  .
I've heard pin feathers are itchy, so do you think he is plucking them to get them out??
Thank you very much for any responses. I feel helpless right now.
Thanks, Haley |
Saturday November 4, 2006 9:15 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
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Haley,
If you can solve this problem then you will be the hero of the bird world. I would start with a vist to the Vet, just to make sure it is not medical.
From just picking up bits and pieces of information from you and about you over the past couple of months.. This is what I supect is happening. I have never seen the bird, nor do I know you nor the bird, so these are only my options.
1. He is already accustom to plucking when he is not happy.
2. You spent all summer spoiling him.
3. You started school recently
4. He does not get the same level of attention from you.
This are just guess on my part. But try treating the plucking as a systom and not the diease. Ingonre the plucking, he is going to pluck no matter what you do. You can however lessen the amount of plucking he does. Birds are creatures of habit, they like things to be the same day in and day out. They get unhappy and scared when things are different. For your bird this means plucking. Figure out a schedule for your bird, 1 hour play time, 1 hour cudle time, 1 hour quite time on your shoulder while doing home work. The important thing is the same time and the same amount of time each and every day, weekend and school days are the same to him. Be constant with him. He will do some more plucking, but have patients and give him time.
I hope this helps..
John |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 1:19 am |
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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
Posts: 1719
Location: Canada |
Thank you so much John!!
Thanks again. He loves sitting on the computer with me (being cuddled). I also take them out for a few hours in my room while I play with them or read. Sometimes I'll do other homework with them, but since I'm having this big testing thing coming up, I need all my consentration on my studying. So I can't pay attention to the sennie who is stealing my pens and chewing up all my papers. 
John, do you know about pluck-no-more? Do you think it would help him? People in my birdclub say it works, should I try it?
Thanks, Haley |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 2:25 am |
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meg832
Fledgeling
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 365
Location: Ohio |
Or it could be a physical irritation left over from his former diet. It does take awhile for dietary changes to heal the body. A daily soaking to the skin will soften the pin feathers and help condition his skin. Help him preen so that he is not bothered by the sharp pinfeathers. Also, be sure that his room is humid enough. If his skin is very sensitive, he may even react to tap water and need baths in distilled water. Also, fragrances in the air can be absorbed through people's skin, causing irritation. I would not be surprised if the same is true of birds naked from plucking. |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 2:33 am |
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Cheeta
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7972
Location: Australia |
quote:
Originally posted by cheekie_birdy
John, do you know about pluck-no-more? Do you think it would help him? People in my birdclub say it works, should I try it?
I'm part of a cockatoo 'club'... many of them have tried out pluck-no-more (as we all know cockatoo are notorious for plucking....)... and none has come back with a positive results. so I don't think it really works. |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 3:51 pm |
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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
Posts: 1719
Location: Canada |
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeta
quote:
Originally posted by cheekie_birdy
John, do you know about pluck-no-more? Do you think it would help him? People in my birdclub say it works, should I try it?
I'm part of a cockatoo 'club'... many of them have tried out pluck-no-more (as we all know cockatoo are notorious for plucking....)... and none has come back with a positive results. so I don't think it really works.
okay, I was just wondering. At the parrot shelter they say the pluck no more works, and then even had some pics of a grey in my birdclub bulliton before and after pluck no more. 
On another of my parrot forums, they said that he might want more chewing toys and that the pins might be itchy, and that I should try this "Molt Ease" stuff to put in his water. |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 4:59 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
quote:
Originally posted by cheekie_birdy
Thank you so much John!!
Thanks again. He loves sitting on the computer with me (being cuddled). I also take them out for a few hours in my room while I play with them or read. Sometimes I'll do other homework with them, but since I'm having this big testing thing coming up, I need all my consentration on my studying. So I can't pay attention to the sennie who is stealing my pens and chewing up all my papers.
John, do you know about pluck-no-more? Do you think it would help him? People in my birdclub say it works, should I try it?
Thanks, Haley
Haley,
I have never heard of this type of product working, Personal I don't think they have much teast in thier tungs, Just think about the peppers they love to eat. |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 7:42 pm |
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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
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Location: Canada |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jrmno1
quote:
Originally posted by cheekie_birdy
Thank you so much John!!
Thanks again. He loves sitting on the computer with me (being cuddled). I also take them out for a few hours in my room while I play with them or read. Sometimes I'll do other homework with them, but since I'm having this big testing thing coming up, I need all my consentration on my studying. So I can't pay attention to the sennie who is stealing my pens and chewing up all my papers.
John, do you know about pluck-no-more? Do you think it would help him? People in my birdclub say it works, should I try it?
Thanks, Haley
Haley,
I have never heard of this type of product working, Personal I don't think they have much teast in thier tungs, Just think about the peppers they love to eat.
Yeah, they hardly have any taste buds.
Pluck-no-more is not someting that tastes bad that you put on the feathers, you put it in water or soft foods to make them calm down or something.
I don't know about that anyway.. |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 10:07 pm |
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Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Cheeky, about the PNM, I have tried it and it really didn't work here.
No result at all only an empty wallet LOL!
Zazu plucks the pin feathers too. It's not because they itch?? He kind of likes the pain? |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 11:21 pm |
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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
Posts: 1719
Location: Canada |
Not many people like the pluck no more stuff..
kings cages makes great cages..but some of those remedies they make..like "Shhh"...its supposed to make birds stop screaming..but they're BIRDS for HEAVENS SAKE, they SCREAM!!! If theres accessive screaming it means something..like take me out of the cage or feed me..I think they're aiming to sell the Shh stuff to some person who bought a cockatoo on a whim.. |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 11:40 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
Oh, Haley, I'm sorry to hear what's going on  I have to agree that it sounds like you showered Cheekie with all kinds of attention, & now, all of a sudden, when you had to go back to school, he's just not getting the attention he's accustomed to, even tho I know you give him as much as you possibly can.
I'm worrying about that too, as I will soon be going back to work.
Like some one else suggested, I think I'd try misting him with a water bottle, on a daily basis if possible. And watch the humidity in the room. |
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Monday November 6, 2006 2:03 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
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PS, I think I would also take him in to see an avian vet, just to rule out some kind of physical problem. |
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Monday November 6, 2006 2:05 pm |
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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
Posts: 1719
Location: Canada |
Ok, I'll try to get him to the vet ASAP |
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Monday November 6, 2006 8:33 pm |
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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
Posts: 1719
Location: Canada |
I got some Molt Ease (someone on my other board reccomended it) and sprayed him with it. I also give him a daily bath. I hope this helps him.
for more about Molt Ease go to http://www.kaytee.com/products.....amp;pcid=3 |
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Saturday November 18, 2006 8:33 pm |
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Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Hmmm, is there a list of ingredients on the bottle? Just curious? |
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Saturday November 18, 2006 8:51 pm |
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