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shells picasso
Flier
Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 900
Location: Sydney |
I'm going to stick with just Picasso for the moment, his needs are higher now than before he started showing symptoms so I doubt I would have the time to give another bird the attention I'd like to. He is doing well so I don't think I will have to worry about what to do if I lost him in regards to getting another bird (I can't imagine not having a birdy buddy) Birds can carry the disease without symptoms, like how people can have HIV but not AIDS. They now have a vaccine for PBFD, I don't know how good it is, also there are certain times in a birds lifespan were they are more at risk from the disease, and some carry antibodies that reduce the risk of them getting the full blown disease. If I lost my baby I would want to get another bird straight away but I would do everything reasonably possible to ensure neither me or the new bird had to go though having the disease. |
Saturday September 10, 2005 2:49 am |
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birdielover
Bappie
Joined: 07 Sep 2005
Posts: 73
Location: Australia |
I actually read that somewhere too that there is a vaccine, a while ago, but I kind of got ignored when I mentioned it (on another forum). I read it was actually Australian scientists who developed it. (correct me if I am wrong on that one). I also read that it will not be available for about 12 months, but I do not know when the article was printed. Can you tell me more about it - like the site or book your read it and where and when the vaccine is available. I am scared that my bird is going to catch with the high prevalance of wild birds we have around here. I love them, but since hearing they are full of PBFD I do worry (they roost in our trees-about 50 or more galahs and some sulfers and corellas). I also did know that they can be symptomless (just like aids) I have also heard of referred to as bird aids. If there is a vaccine then I would get Skye vaccinated and any other bird I get in the future. |
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Saturday September 10, 2005 8:08 am |
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Greg Sujecki
Experienced flier
Joined: 21 Mar 2005
Posts: 1650
Location: Australia,Melbourne |
This is only my opinion through current experiance?Mylo
Indain Ringneck
are not mean't to be friendly with other parrots, like l have experianced in the past  .Recently Mylo through time is and getting better through my supervision, going about and eating with my
Cockatiel
Oliver to my surprise.Like today they had there greens together and didn't open there beaks at each other one moment, so in my opinion as long as the size is about the same and the time is spent  anything can happen so to speak.Different speices of birds getting along is just like cats getting along with birds... you would never believe it until you saw it would you..I'm now a believer that they can (Cat's) get along with birds seeing photo's here,so you would never ever know until you try>> |
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Saturday September 10, 2005 10:55 am |
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Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 10100
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Shells, is there a vaccin? Truly?
Or is it just in its testing phase? |
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Saturday September 10, 2005 1:01 pm |
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shells picasso
Flier
Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 900
Location: Sydney |
According to this site they have a vaccination
http://numbat.murdoch.edu.au/caf/pbfd.htm
it's the first I've heard of it and I don't know how good it is but I think anything at this stage is an improvement, it would be good if they could completely get rid of the virus all together in birds. |
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Saturday September 10, 2005 1:31 pm |
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Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 10100
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Thank you for providing that link Shells! I will bookmark it and read it! |
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Saturday September 10, 2005 1:39 pm |
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birdielover
Bappie
Joined: 07 Sep 2005
Posts: 73
Location: Australia |
Thanks for the link, that is the one that I had read, so now I have printed it out to show my vet about the vaccination. |
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Saturday September 10, 2005 10:38 pm |
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Cheeta
Moderator
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7972
Location: Australia |
Ya know, When I was younger, I wanted to go to that particular uni to study to be a vet, but I got sidetracked and went with environmental science instead... but now I'm a youth worker!! Go figure hey.. hehehe... I should have stuck to being a vet, and took on the avian branch or something... that way we would have had an avian vet in the house!! LOL... oh well... just too bad...
Oh and I saw that article earlier, but didn't think much of it as I think it still in it's testing stage?? I should find out from them. |
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Sunday September 11, 2005 9:45 am |
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shells picasso
Flier
Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 900
Location: Sydney |
I wanted to do vet science too at one point, I was doing a HSC and was getting good enough marks to get into a medical study but money ran out and I ended up in hospitality instead, it's a long haul to do vet studies, 4 years will get you into medicine but it's even longer for animals especially if you specialise.  |
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Sunday September 11, 2005 8:10 pm |
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shells picasso
Flier
Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 900
Location: Sydney |
oh nearly forgot, if you work with animals you end up living in a zoo, he he I think it's on of the "sacrifices" us animal lovers end up making  |
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Sunday September 11, 2005 8:13 pm |
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Cheeta
Moderator
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7972
Location: Australia |
Oh and what a sacrifice that is!!! lol... |
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Sunday September 11, 2005 8:23 pm |
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birdielover
Bappie
Joined: 07 Sep 2005
Posts: 73
Location: Australia |
Yes that is what I thought it said too, still developing stages and not for "public" use for 12 months (I think that is what I read when I found that site a while back). But when I tried to ask a question it asked for a $60 consultation fee. I thought that was a bit rude. I would not even get to talk to someone, just an email. |
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Monday September 12, 2005 3:19 am |
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shells picasso
Flier
Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 900
Location: Sydney |
 gees, I wouldn't give someone $60 for an e-mail. I'd rather ring the vet and find out if they do it. |
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Monday September 12, 2005 9:02 am |
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Kalden
Flutterer
Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Posts: 181
Location: Singapore |
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeta
Yeah unfortunately the PBFD has hit the wild population in Australia real hard. It's so sad to see that all these guys are just dropping like flies because of the disease!!
sad indeed...
but hopefully there will be some survivors, who have the resistance against this deadly disease
and that subsequent generations will eventually build up resistance against it |
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Monday September 4, 2006 12:55 pm |
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fruitynutbird
Fledgeling
Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 226
Location: Sydney, Australia |
Here is a quote from Dr. Bob Doneley, one of the BEST avian vets in Australia:
"...Garry Cross at the University of Sydney was able to develop an effective vaccine but government requirements to test it on all parrot species likely to be vaccinated - and the costs involved in doing this - have made it cost-prohibitive. At this stage, an effective, readily available vaccine still eludes us."
Is this another example of governmental bureaucratic red-tape gone awry? The quoted excerpt is from a 3 page article on PBFD in the current (Aug-Sep 2006) issue of Australian Birdkeeper Magazine (Volume 19 Issue 4). It is well worth a read!
http://www.birdkeeper.com.au/v2/index.html
Hope this info helps!
Andrew |
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