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Gemma
Flier
Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 846
Location: Essex, England |
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I have been wondering wether to have Poppets wings clipped for a while now on one hand people are always saying that it is safer and it helps keep the birds tame it also means i could take him outside however he is older now and the vets could be stressfull for him and is it cruel to stop him flying when he is used to it and it the natural thing for him to do ???? i want him to be safe abd to take him outside but i dont want to be mean ? What should i do ? |
Friday August 11, 2006 2:49 pm |
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Yupra
Flying tumbler
Joined: 05 Feb 2006
Posts: 2206
Location: CA |
I think you should use your own judgement on this one. Look at both sides of the argument (clipped or unclipped) and make your choice about what you think is right for you. I'm a big believer in clipping, Speckles 2 can still fly (a bit) its sort of limited to the downward slope, hehe. Plus he seems to be more interested in spending a little time on our shoulders rather than with his toys all day. I know others on this site prefer to leave their fids unclipped, its all down to personal preference and judgement. |
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Friday August 11, 2006 3:52 pm |
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Fluffy Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 10063
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I agree with Yupra..
You should use your own judgement. You can put all the pros and cons on one list, then think what you think is best.. 
I favor clipping for MY birds.. |
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Friday August 11, 2006 4:02 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
Oh, I know it's a tough choice to make Gemma & one that I am always arguing with myself about! But yeah, it's one you have to make for yourself, depending on you & Poppets situation.
My sennie was clipped when she came to live with me at 12 wks old in Jan & she is just now beginning to fly a bit, so I know I will soon be faced with the decision too. I have thoroughly loved taking her outdoors with me, but I am also beginning to worry about her flying off even with her wings clipped, in which case it wouldn't make much sense to keep clipping them. |
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Friday August 11, 2006 4:59 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
Sue, pleae tell me more about Iagos wings. How many feathers are clipped, do you do it yourself & about how often? |
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Friday August 11, 2006 5:06 pm |
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CrAzYJoEe
Just hatched
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Posts: 47
Location: Brooklyn, New York |
Personaly, I dont like my parakeet's wings clipped. I bought the parakeet with its wings clipped and it always seems to try to fly and then land on something that could possibly hurt it because it cant stay in the air.
It cant really choose where it wants to land.  |
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Friday August 11, 2006 5:07 pm |
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Gemma
Flier
Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 846
Location: Essex, England |
Thanks for all your advice i think i am going to get Poppets wings clipped and see how he takes to it. If he really dosnt like it then i will just let them grow back. |
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Saturday August 12, 2006 4:07 pm |
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Fluffy Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 10063
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quote:
Originally posted by Cathy
Sue, pleae tell me more about Iagos wings. How many feathers are clipped, do you do it yourself & about how often?
Iago's wings have 8 feathers clipped. I do it myself.. (As often as they grow back)
How many feathers do you clip with Jennie? |
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Saturday August 12, 2006 4:51 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
I've never clipped hers Sue, they were clipped by the breeder when I got her, but she clipped 7 of them.
I don't think I'll clip Jennies myself, I'm just too nervous about it, but I will ask the vet to cut either 7 or 8 of them. I think I've pretty much made up my mind to keep her clipped. |
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Saturday August 12, 2006 5:02 pm |
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Fluffy Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 10063
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Oh I see! Well, how does she do now? Do you think she lands perfectly? Else you could clip more or leave it like this!
1 or 2 feathers really matter. First I clipped only 2 feathers with Wheezy and he couldn't take off anymore! |
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Saturday August 12, 2006 5:04 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
You know, until just very recently, Jennie always went straight DOWN when she tried to fly. But it seems maybe she just getting more strength or something, & is flying further outward now, tho still no height. |
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Saturday August 12, 2006 5:11 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
We clip our own birds, Thier is more then one way to clip them though...
1. Clip first 7 or 8 flight feathers, they are Grounded Fly at a downward slop
(use on my Amazons, keeps them a little more under control)
2. Clip first 5 flight feathers in an arch, still fly with control and some lift
(Use on my CAG's. This saves alot of crash lands)
3. Clip last 2 or 3 (inside feathers, what would be considered 7 and 8 above)) flight Feathers, this dose not take away lift but takes thier speed.
(Use on my Conures, Tiels and Kiets. They are fast flyers, but you don't want them grounded, they need to be able to get away from the bigger birds)
Verations on these depending on what you need at the time. Our GW and our BFA are not cliped. This may change if they start getting out of control..
John and Carrie |
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Saturday August 12, 2006 8:35 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
Our avian vet clipped Manus, & he only clipped 5. If I were to continue to have him clipped, I think I eventually would have asked the vet to clip more, but now I've decided not to clip his wings anymore.
I'm still not sure if I'll keep Jennies wings clipped, or not, but I'm too nervous to ever clip them myself. |
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Sunday August 13, 2006 1:48 pm |
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chispleeze
Flier
Joined: 14 Jul 2005
Posts: 475
Location: Upstate NY |
Well, so far I have not clipped Pickles wings. And my budgies are not clipped. I love to see them all flying and playing together. That does mean I can't take them outside, but you have to weigh out what's best for your situation. However, lately Pickles has been getting into an awful lot of mischief being able to go wherever he pleases.  Chewing up a lot of things. So if he keeps it up he just may end up grounded.
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Sunday August 13, 2006 2:17 pm |
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meg832
Fledgeling
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 365
Location: Ohio |
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That brings up another good point. A flighted bird in my home could get into a lot of trouble. Besides chewing wallpaper and books or pooping on the china; she could chew electric cords; fly to the top of the 'fridge, skid, and end up trapped behind it; fly into a window or out of an opening door, into boiling water or the toilet; get into the cat's food or toys which might have fresh cat saliva on them (poison to birds); get a meal of chocolate or avocado; find something fun to hide under only to get crushed if someone doesn't know she is there; eat something toxic like a felt marker, unsafe metal, or toxic houseplant...and so on. There are hundreds of ways a bird could get hurt in the instant the guardian gets a phone call and looks away. So part of the puzzle is whether you have a bird safe space where the flighted bird can exercise safely even if an emergency takes your attention away.
I wish I could let my bird fly, but, for now at least, her trimmed wings are her ticket to living with a flock of people and getting to go places with me. |
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Sunday August 13, 2006 11:34 pm |
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