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Gemma
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Joined: 23 May 2006
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Location: Essex, England |
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Hello all  I have been seriously considering getting a new bird for a while now and would very much like to further my experiences with our feathered friends by breeding them. After much research I think that due to size, personality and how often they breed that Budgies would be a good option. If I do get two Budgies it will be after christmas but I really want to know as much about them and thier breeding habits as possible. Does anyone else here breed budgies or anyother kind of small parrot???????
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Monday September 4, 2006 5:32 pm |
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Fluffy Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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I don't have budgies, but Cheeta has lots of them! |
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Tuesday September 5, 2006 10:00 pm |
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Jrmno1
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Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
I have one question, just a general question, not pointing at any one or anything.
What do you do with the babies? Budgies I understand are very prolific (sp). They breed at a drop of a hat, they don't need an excuess..
John & Carrie |
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Wednesday September 6, 2006 11:48 am |
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Gemma
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Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 846
Location: Essex, England |
Hi, I would probably give some free to birdie friends and sell others to good homes. |
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Wednesday September 6, 2006 1:52 pm |
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Cathy
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Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6672
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
I feel the same as jrmno, I'm afraid you may have a hard time selling, or even giving them all away. Budgies anyway, since they are so prolific & inexpensive.
I've never bred birds before, but once a pair of birds mate, I think it's very hard to seperate them, if you no longer want them to mate, without causing behavioural problems. This is the main reason I've never even considered breeding, I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to find good homes for all of them. |
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Wednesday September 6, 2006 6:49 pm |
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Cheeta
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
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Location: Australia |
budgies do breed like mice if you let them be...
If you want to breed and have the avenue to make sure that these babies goes to good home, then I guess it's ok, if not you gotta make sure that they will be looked after by you and that you can take care of them if you can't find them other good home.
Budgies need to be at least 12 months old before they are mentally ready to breed, some breeder wait till they are 18 months old before breeding them. This ensure higher success rate.
Budgies aren't bond for life, so they aren't too hard to pair with, but some are very fussy though, so your pair may not take to each other and not breed very well.
They need a budgie size (obviously) breeding box, and best to keep them seperated from other birds in seperate cage.
They may be prolific breeders, but there are many complications that come with breeding budgies such as eggbound, splayed legs, french moult etc etc. Make sure if you want to breed to read up on budgie breeding. |
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Wednesday September 6, 2006 7:18 pm |
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Gemma
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Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 846
Location: Essex, England |
I've researched the search alot and if i did have a problem selling/giving away the chicks i would be prepared to keep them until i found a suitable home. |
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Thursday September 7, 2006 4:42 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
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Location: Omaha, NE USA |
That would be great if you're ready, willing & able to keep those you can't find good homes for.
I've always wished I had a pair of birds that would have just 1 clutch of chicks. Problem is, that's just not the way nature works  |
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Thursday September 7, 2006 5:04 pm |
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Jrmno1
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Joined: 28 Aug 2005
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Location: Ohio, USA |
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Gemma,
I am not goning to run your idea in the ground, but I wish to play the bad guy for just a little while. I know that you hav already thought of all this, but bear with me for just a little while.
I love the babies so much that Carrie will not let me go anywhere near baby birds. It is hard for me not to buy/abopt/save every one I run accross. We have 13 now directly because of me. Don't get me wrong Carrie loves them as much as I do. To have Babies is what I would like to do at some point in my life. But it takes all of our spare time, I mean all, to take care of them all. If we got another bird at this point it would require that we take time with another bird to give to the new one. Carrie does not work out side of the house, so she can take care of them all.
There are so very many birds already out there that need love from someone like yourself. Budgies are problely the most abanded bird out there. According to the USA Human Socity birds are the second most abanded animal, next to cats. It is even above Dogs. I wish for you to ask yourself a question. "Why am I bringing these birds into the world?". Is it for Me? What justifaction do I have.
Thats all the soap box treatment, I want you to know that we (me & Carrie) wish you luck and lots of heath birds and all the love that goes with them as well.
John & Carrie |
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Thursday September 7, 2006 5:40 pm |
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Gemma
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Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 846
Location: Essex, England |
thanks for all the advice and dont worry about it i'm glad that you are honest it is the sign of a true friend and birdie lover. I will give this some careful consideration before getting any birds xxxxx |
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Friday September 8, 2006 9:40 am |
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meg832
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Joined: 16 Jun 2006
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Well, since this is a forum, I ran across another angle to worry about.
I was cruising the net on health topics and found some information about pet birds that lay eggs over and over even though they have never had mates. They wear themselves out, get egg-bound, etc., even with their worried owners feeding them calcium-rich supplements and trying every trick in the book to make them disinterested in laying eggs. These pets are likely to live short live, as a breeder does. This already happens with a few different species (cockatiel was one, I remember; budgie might have been). The author lamented that this trait is being bred into many species of our pet birds, and explained that this is because breeders who are most successful have hens that have this trait. More eggs = more chicks = more profit.
Chickens (which laid very few eggs generations ago) have been bred purposely to have this egg-laying trait, so that chicken farmers can make a profit. But the author's point was that a pet bird from a prolific hen will probably, like her momma, want to lay a lot of eggs. She might not make a good pet because of 'broody' behavior, and she will most likely end up with health problems. The author lamented that more and more pet bird species will have this excessive egg-laying trait if careless breeding continued.
Well, the article shook me up but good, and left me hoping that my parrotlet (a breed known for reproducing "like chickens") is gay. And since the author pointed out the state of bird-neutering options, I was also reminded of a friend who ended up with 40 pure-bred cats she couldn't place (and couldn't afford) because the vet botched the tom's neutering!
Please understand that, by reporting this as part of a forum discussion, I am not assuming that you are going to be a thoughtless breeder or even that you haven't already discovered the same article and considered its contents.
I wish you the best, whatever you decide. |
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Saturday September 9, 2006 11:56 pm |
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Gemma
Flier
Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 846
Location: Essex, England |
Thankyou for all the advice. Gem |
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Wednesday September 13, 2006 1:28 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
So how long are you going to keep us in supense.....That CAG sounds like it has already picked you out...She won't be happy with anyone else now....
John & Carrie |
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Wednesday September 13, 2006 1:44 pm |
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