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greycrazy
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my grey screems when I leave the room  Reply with quote  

My grey is a joy, but screems when I leave the room. I believe he picked it up from my friends grey. Its been years, no matter what I do ihe does not stop the behavior.
Post Wednesday February 23, 2005 3:32 am
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My grey is a joy, but screems when I leave the room. I believe he picked it up from my friends grey. Its been years, no matter what I do ihe does not stop the behavior.


Please read this:
http://www.fluffies.org/phobic-parrot.htm

With 1) you can draw your grey's attention
2) You can tell that your grey is the most fantastic grey, with a grey head etc.
3) Show you grey anything, explain him for example the looks of a toy he doesn't know yet.
4) Give him an instruction: Like, feel this part of the toy. When he does this, praise him a lot! Smile
5) Tell him you'll leave them room, and tell him to stay there.. Then praise.
(You can leave the room then)

I hope it works..

Please never leave the room without telling your parrot where you go.. (Or that you're leaving)
Never give any attention to screaming. When you DO want to return to the room and your grey is screaming, don't give him any attention at all!! Not even eye contact and start the five steps again.. Smile

I hope it works!

PS The five step program doesn't mean that you have to ignore your parrot all the time! Smile
It's just a program that takes a few minutes/ half a minute..
Post Wednesday February 23, 2005 9:44 am
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greycrazy
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sounds good and i appreciate the great advice, but i have tried many similar things and nothing seems to work. I have ignored the bad and praised the good for at least a year, and it has helped a lot, but he is far from cured. I like the steps you gave, and i will try it. I think that i should spend a full day or two just on that kind of training.
there are a few things about my grey that you should know, in case you have other ideas. My grey is a rescue. I am his third owner. He originally belonged to a man who kept him in a very small cage (cockatiel size) and he had No Toys. This lasted about 5 yrs and then the guy went into another depresion. He dropped Beebs (my grey) off at his ex-wifes house and said, " I dont care if he dies". Long story short and a sore hand later, she got beebs to become some what friendly. When I got him, he did not speak or play. Now he is spoiled rotten and he knows it. He has a fairly large vocab. and beats his toys.
I think he is very dependent on me because of the trust we share. No one has ever loved him like i do. He wasn't raised like other greys, and he doesn't know how to be happy by himself. Know matter what he's playing with or eating, he just wants to be with me. So he calls...Loudly. I have even given him softer sounds in response to get him to pick up the nicer sounds. But he is just loud. He will take the sound of sharpening knives and make it rattle your brains. He spends a good amount of time by himself and is very scheduled. But nothing seems to work.
Post Saturday February 26, 2005 3:50 am
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Parrots scream in the wild for a variety of reasons. It is believed that screaming serves as a danger warning to flock mates. Screaming may also keep outsider's away, thereby defending the flocks territory. Screaming is used by wild bird's to call a mate or to reunite lost members of the flock. Natural screaming increases during the breeding season.

Parrots are not considered to be domesticated animals. Unlike dogs and cats, keeping parrots as pets has become popular only in the last few decades. Innate behaviors have not been bred out of them. Consequently, we see behaviors in pet parrots that do not fit in well in a home environment. Of course, screaming is one of these behaviors.
It is normal for many parrot species to make loud vocalizations in the morning and early evening hours. But, some species "call" or scream more than others. Ideally, it is best to research what species of bird will fit your tolerance level prior to bringing a bird into your home.

Try to make sense of the screaming from your birds point of view. Pet bird's in a domestic environment may naturally be trying to preserve the flock (your family) or to protect a chosen mate (you). Have you noticed your bird calling for you when you are not within it's sight? Or how about the parrot that screams during family arguments or while the children are being disciplined? Some birds scream out of fear such as when they are faced with an unfamiliar object or an unfamiliar person enters the home. These situations are natural "carry-overs" from the wild. They can unwittingly be reinforced and become a problem in the home setting when we provide "attention" to the parrot for screaming.

Some parrots enjoy testing the limits. They want to be at the top of the pecking order. This is true especially for adolescent parrots. Think about how children normally test the limits. Even though we expect and anticipate our children to




misbehave, it is still our responsibilityto provide redirection and not reinforce misbehavior so that it becomes routine. Apply these same conditioning principles with your bird. Begin training your parrot appropriate household behavior as soon as you bring it home.

Remember, the bird will reach sexual maturity in a few years and will naturally challenge what authority you've established up to that point. Your mature bird will also have seasonal hormonal pressure to call to a mate and defend it's flock. So, establish authority while your bird is young. Also remember that pet parrots live for years. Don't let an annoying problem develop that you will have to live with for a lengthy period of time.

Prevention

All birds "scream" or make louder vocalizations in the morning and evening hours. Some species are louder than others, though. Learn what is normal for your bird.

As with most problem behaviors that pet parrots develop, prevention is the key to dealing with screaming habits. It is especially easy to unwittingly teach and reinforce screaming in pet parrots since screaming is a natural behavior for them. Plus, being smart, social creatures, parrots will "fine tune" their screaming skills if they perceive any attention, good or bad, for the
behavior. Pay attention to your reactions to screaming! We unwittingly teach our pet to scream when we respond in any way to loud vocalizations. Common responses include picking up a screaming bird, yelling or talking back to an overly loud bird or even increasing other household noise in response to screaming.

Prevention, then, means refusal to model loud vocalizations by with yelling to other family members. Your bird will simply imitate your behavior. It also means teaching our bird to entertain itself when it is
young. Develop a special "whistle" that is a call between you and your bird so you can maintain contact with each other in a pleasant way if you leave the room or it can't see you. Learning to tolerate normal vocalizations and refusing to provide reinforcement when your bird is loud are important keys. Also, remember, bird's become more vocal during seasonal periods. An excellent resource to learn about teaching positive behaviors and eliminating unwanted behaviors is Clicker Training for Birds.
Post Sunday February 27, 2005 9:37 am
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Surprised With Mylo and previously Lielow both Ringneck i found when they screamed i came back to reassure them i understand and felt their feathers with my hand from head to back a few times and said/still say to Mylo(good bird it's alright i'm just going inside,back soon)l say it in a soft voice and look into their eye's ,then i go inside Mylo still screamed once or twice but then stop.Repeating the same words when i am leaving makes them know when you are going When i'm coming out, i call from a distance(hello Mylo,hows it going hello hello how are you) and he get's all excited to see me so i approach the cage.When i leave or return i use the same sentence all the time,so he and does understand what is going on.Now he is mumbling hello and something else i quiet can't understand yet(being 3-4 months young) hopefully not the sentence when i'm leaving to go indside.lol That's just my experiance which has worked for me hope it helps. Smile
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