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Julie White
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Joined: 17 Nov 2005
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Location: Staines, England |
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I had my heartstrings well and truly tugged yesterday. I would dearly love a Roseate Cockatoo but here they can cost £1200 pounds. Well yesterday I came across a site which was offering fertilized eggs for £60 and the loan of an incubator for which you had to pay a deposit of £150. At first I thought wow I can raise a chick, I've done it before with wild birds and I could give it the care it would need. At first my mind was completely taken up with this idea. Then I realised there was a price to pay for this. What about the parent birds who are having their eggs taken away? Will they be laying egg after egg to replace those taken, I know I can't do this, I don't need to have a Galah so badly that I could live with my conscience and every time I looked at the baby I would be thinking about the parents. |
Sunday November 5, 2006 2:06 pm |
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chispleeze
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Joined: 14 Jul 2005
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Julie, I agree this must be hard on the parents to not be allowed to hatch out the eggs and at least raise the babies for awhile. Let me tell you another sad situation though. The local bird shop/rescue I deal with here has taken in a bunch of birds that were taken away from a woman who deserves to have her hair ripped out by the roots! Continually! She had these birds (tiels, lovebirds, grey, amazons, quakers, conures, ringnecks) that she kept in depolorable conditions. As if that were not enough she would rip out their feathers as they came in and sell them on ebay to support her drug habit. Of course this means the birds are all petrified of being touched! The grey and one amazon are crippled as well. They fortunately are all growing feathers back in now so at least folicles were not damaged. But they are so sad to see. Can't be placed yet due to court proceedings. But the poor things....I wish I could taken them all!!
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Sunday November 5, 2006 7:41 pm |
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Julie White
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Oh Robin how awful for those poor birds, why was she selling the feathers, it's awful when you think what some people would do for money. I do a voluntary thing in a prison to do with drug and alcohol rehab and I don't think any of the men there would have done anything so cruel to feed their drug habits, although some of them did some pretty bad things. I worry when I see things made with feathers in shops and always make a point of asking if the shop owners know where the feathers came from and of course I would never buy anything made from feathers, although I know that the majority are dyed chicken feathers. Will you rehome any of the birds yourself when they become available. I'm hoping some time in the future to volunteer to help at a parrot rescue if I can find one in the area. They do exist over here but I think you have more of them there. At the moment I'm studying, but when my course is finished in about 2 years I'll have more time, maybe I'll get my Roseate Cockatoo then, a rescued one would be best. |
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Sunday November 5, 2006 9:05 pm |
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chispleeze
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Joined: 14 Jul 2005
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Originally posted by Julie White
Will you rehome any of the birds yourself when they become available.
I would love to help somehow. Will have to see when they are allowed to finally be adopted out. |
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Monday November 6, 2006 1:49 am |
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Julie White
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Location: Staines, England |
I hope they can be rehabilitated ok, maybe they will have to go to somewhere where they don't have to be handled too much, it's amazing how forgiving animals can be though. |
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Monday November 6, 2006 10:42 pm |
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Yupra
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Joined: 05 Feb 2006
Posts: 2206
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Oh that is so horrible! How can she stand herself when she does these terrible things to those birds, she should be ashamed!! I hope the court rules that she can NEVER have another animal again  And I hope also that those poor birdies go to good homes |
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Tuesday November 7, 2006 9:45 pm |
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joti26
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Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
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Well done Julie for resisting, buying my birds was a huge dilema for me any way. I can never stop thinking of all those birds that are being bought and then discarded or not looked after well and there is me fuelling the demand! Are Galahs all the same or is that a general name? They had a real cutie from where I got Ziggy from, he was like a little pink powder puff his feathers were so soft . It does sound really dodgy, treating them just as commodities and i'm sure I have read that babies parented by their own produce better adjusted birds in the long run. I hate the idea of taking eggs away, I am such a softie like that though, I had to stop watching a natural history programme on the Galapagos because I couldn't watch baby birds being eaten by owls. If I won the lottery I woud set up my own sanctuary although I might just go rescue orangutangs in borneo (another of my little dreams). |
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Wednesday November 8, 2006 10:41 pm |
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Julie White
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Hi Joti I love Orang Utangs and Gorillas too, I'd love to see them in the wild. Galahs are the other name for Roseate Cockatoos and I would dearly love to have one of those. All the ones I've seen have been really nice natured and I've been reading that they're quieter than the other Cockatoos, although I expect that they can still make quite a noise, the same as all the other types of Parrots and I expect that if they're not treated well they can turn just as nasty and with good reason. I will try and get a rescued one in the future. There don't seem to be any parrot rescue centres near here to get involved with and I would love to get involved with a Parrot Rescue as a volunteer, are there any near you? |
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Friday November 10, 2006 12:10 am |
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Yupra
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Originally posted by Julie White
Hi Joti I love Orang Utangs and Gorillas too, I'd love to see them in the wild. Galahs are the other name for Roseate Cockatoos and I would dearly love to have one of those. All the ones I've seen have been really nice natured and I've been reading that they're quieter than the other Cockatoos, although I expect that they can still make quite a noise, the same as all the other types of Parrots and I expect that if they're not treated well they can turn just as nasty and with good reason. I will try and get a rescued one in the future. There don't seem to be any parrot rescue centres near here to get involved with and I would love to get involved with a Parrot Rescue as a volunteer, are there any near you?
Oh yes, galahs can be noisy when they want to! The noisiest bird my grandad ever had to put a band on was a galah, it made such a fuss, even though he wasn't hurting it at all. Still, being that it was wild it wasn't used to human contact so I guess that is why it was so noisy. It was let outside like all the others unharmed and very pleased to fly away! |
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Friday November 10, 2006 5:41 pm |
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Cathy
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Joined: 02 Apr 2005
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You know, I was very shocked to read Robins comment about the idiot that plucked her birds feathers to sell them on e-bay  And then, just the other nite as I was shopping, I found at Target, colorful trees made out of beautiful bird feathers!! For decoration!@! And I SWEAR some of them looked just like Jennie the sennies feathers !!!!
Gawd! I think I should say something to someone in charge at Target!!!
As I was complaining about it, my daughter said she felt so embarassed & ashamed becuz she had seen them & almost got me one for Christmas! |
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Monday November 13, 2006 2:25 am |
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chispleeze
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Joined: 14 Jul 2005
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It's heartbreaking. Look on ebay and see how many parrot feathers are being sold there. It's sickening. Claims are made that they are naturally molted feathers. But that's got to be a heck of a lot of birds molting steadily to provide that kind of supply.
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Monday November 13, 2006 3:16 am |
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Cathy
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That's just awful  |
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Monday November 13, 2006 3:47 am |
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Cathy
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Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
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You know, I guess when other people see that kind of thing on e-bay, or at stores like Target, they just think they're unique & pretty & something someone might really like as a gift, they don't stop to think what might be behind the whole story.
That's just the same with fertilized parrot eggs, a lot of people just aren't aware & don't stop to think about it as a production line, using live birds!!! |
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Monday November 13, 2006 3:51 am |
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Julie White
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Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 421
Location: Staines, England |
It's always a dilemma when you see things like feathers or fur used as decoration. When I see it I usually make a point of mentioning loudly so that I can be overheard that some of these things could come from endangered species. I think it's no good complaining to the shop assistants you have to complain to the owner or manager or maybe the headquarters of the organisation if there are a chain of shops. The majority of people have no idea about the cruelty involved with anything like this. There was one occasion when a shop assistant was trying to get me to buy a coat with a fur lined hood and I told them that if I wanted to feel fur I had three dogs at home and the fur always looks better on the animal. We have a saying here that fur coats are worn by beautiful animals and ugly people. I'm shocked that Ebay would allow things like that to be sold on that site.  |
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Monday November 13, 2006 5:09 pm |
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joti26
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Originally posted by Julie White
Hi Joti I love Orang Utangs and Gorillas too, I'd love to see them in the wild. Galahs are the other name for Roseate Cockatoos and I would dearly love to have one of those. All the ones I've seen have been really nice natured and I've been reading that they're quieter than the other Cockatoos, although I expect that they can still make quite a noise, the same as all the other types of Parrots and I expect that if they're not treated well they can turn just as nasty and with good reason. I will try and get a rescued one in the future. There don't seem to be any parrot rescue centres near here to get involved with and I would love to get involved with a Parrot Rescue as a volunteer, are there any near you?
I don't think there is a rescue centre near here either. I think the nearest to me is Leicester and i'm not sure they are even a rescue centre. I will have to keep doing the lottery I guess! I'm horrified at the feather thing too, i'm sure people just don't think when they buy stuff like that. I hope you find your Galah soon. |
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