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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
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I want to add toys to a playstand and java perch and either want hooks or screw in rings but most are zinc plated. Are brass plated ones safe? Any other suggestions please. Also thinking about making an outdoor aviary in the spring. I don't know what is safe to use, I have heard that galvanised wire mesh is unsafe. Anyone got any ideas? |
Monday October 23, 2006 10:32 pm |
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Cathy
Kamikaze pilot
Joined: 02 Apr 2005
Posts: 6673
Location: Omaha, NE USA |
I have found some quick links & other type of hardware at the large lumber yards/hardware stores that are stainless steel. Some of the on line bird stores sell them too, but I can't think of specific ones right off.
Manus outdoor cage/dog kennel is galvanized, which is by far the cheapest, yet not the best way to go. I spoke to the avian vet before buying ours & he said that washing it well with soap & water & a scrub brush several times will get rid of the "galvanized" coating, basically like weathering it.
You can also buy powder coated & stainless steel ones.
I don't know about brass coated ones tho? |
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Tuesday October 24, 2006 12:29 am |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
I believe that solid Brass might be to soft?? I don't really know, I try to stick with stanless myself. Try it Cost a little more. But an Macaw has a Bite of 900 lbs sq inch, and an Amazon can bite 700 lbs. Thats a lot of bite, and they will ues it on toys. Brass Coated Hardware, is extermly dangrous, If the Brass is alright (I don't know one way or another) then when they get through the Brass Coating, then you have the same issue as no brass at all. Once again we are back to Stanless.....I hope this helps, My option and $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee...
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Tuesday October 24, 2006 1:42 am |
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Cheeta
Moderator
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7972
Location: Australia |
Brass coated is fine as long as you keep an eye on the rust situation. Once the coating gets nipped off, the 'raw' steel metal inside is then expose to air and moisture which will cause the metal to rust. Keep an eye on it. Steel is fine as long as it is not rusting. Cheers |
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Tuesday October 24, 2006 5:28 am |
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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
Thanks again all. Jrmno the problem is not that I don't want to pay for stainless steel, it is that I just can't find any. It isn't quick links I want but hooks or eyes to attatch the quick links to. But I just havn't found any yet. Call in to the UK and I will guarantee you a free coffee!  Incidentally I bought a book on Greys last week and was absolutely horrified,when I read it until I realised it was published in 1983. It was oh so wrong on many things, including Zinc and suggesting giving birds coffee to name but a few horrors. I am taking it back and suggesting that they bin it! It did make me realise how far bird knowledge had come in such a short space of time though. |
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Tuesday October 24, 2006 9:27 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
quote:
Originally posted by joti26
Thanks again all. Jrmno the problem is not that I don't want to pay for stainless steel, it is that I just can't find any. It isn't quick links I want but hooks or eyes to attatch the quick links to. But I just havn't found any yet. Call in to the UK and I will guarantee you a free coffee! Incidentally I bought a book on Greys last week and was absolutely horrified,when I read it until I realised it was published in 1983. It was oh so wrong on many things, including Zinc and suggesting giving birds coffee to name but a few horrors. I am taking it back and suggesting that they bin it! It did make me realise how far bird knowledge had come in such a short space of time though.
Yes I agree, (if "BIN" means Trash Bin?)
We are going to a bird show this week end EMail me a shopping list and I will see what I can do about getting a Care package together... They are not really that expensive, Just need to know how big and how many you need..
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Wednesday October 25, 2006 3:16 am |
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Cheeta
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7972
Location: Australia |
I'm not sure what it's like over in the UK, but over here in Australia, to get anything stainless steel, I have to go to fasterners specialties store. Basically they sells things like screws, hooks and bolts and stuff like that. May be there are stores like that over there? They are also cheaper to get that way...
Another way that might help is actually getting it from the internet, but that would cost even more due to the postage.. Though i found it much cheaper to get the quick links and stuff sent from online orders since some sells for so much more expensive over here in comparison to an online store in the US! |
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Wednesday October 25, 2006 3:26 am |
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budgies plus
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Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 8
Location: Perth Western Asutralia |
All stainless steel fittings and odd and ends can be found in boating stores...The fasteners needed for boats are all stainless steel.  |
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Monday October 30, 2006 1:39 pm |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
quote:
Originally posted by budgies plus
All stainless steel fittings and odd and ends can be found in boating stores...The fasteners needed for boats are all stainless steel.
Great Idea, Hadn't thought of that... |
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Monday October 30, 2006 2:20 pm |
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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
What a good idea, no sea here but might get some from canal boat suppliers. Will check it out. Thanks. |
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Tuesday October 31, 2006 9:24 pm |
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