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| Start date: Tuesday September 26, 2006 11:55 am |
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Fluffy Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 10070
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Like I said the pics were taken before the greys were moved to my home
and how I take care of my birds is again non of your business .. so please mind your own bsiness and do not post another comment in my profile
Hi Atomic. Please watch your language next time.. I've had some complaints about you.. 
If you think that how you care of your birds is non of our business I'd suggest you don't get us involved. 
I hope we can start with a clean slate.
Sue
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Thursday February 1, 2007 11:40 pm |
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sentiels3
Experienced flier
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 1312
Location: Joliet, Ill |
Thank you for posting the pics of the brown headed parrot. It does resemble a senegal somewhat except it has white eyerings and the dark brown coloring of the head goes farther down the neck almost to the shoulders. I also see some yellow on its shoulders. I will have to look up info on this bird as I never heard of it. If it isn't a common pet parrot, you may have a rare find. Take care of it and keep it in the family, you may never see another one like it.
You also may have 3 budding animal enthusiasts on your hands. They may go into vet school, or any other type of field dealing with animals and birds. Just keep encouraging your kids interests with birds and all animals. Let them learn all they can about the joy of birds and all gods creatures.  |
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Friday February 2, 2007 4:57 am |
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Cheeta
Moderator
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7967
Location: Australia |
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Tom
I'm well aware of what's going on with you and some other members on this website/forum regarding the way you care for your birds. I may or may not agree with the way you go about your business in taking care of your birds, but I have no interests in discussing that right now.
However I must say the nerve you have to come on to the website and treat the site admin (the owner of this forum) the way you did through her homepage comment is way way out of line. She has been generous enough to pay for the webspace that you currently use to brag about your birds. In my opinion, her message to you is to watch the foul language on the website which she owns and has every right to be concern about, that DOES NOT give you the right to go on a rampage in her comment page. Your comment on Sue's page is very uncalled for.
There is no way on this God's given Earth will I allow ANYONE who doesn't know us to attack the adminstrator/moderators of this site (and especially Sue the admin) from an uncalled for situation. So back off, and put some ice on it. Sue has nothing but the best of intentions for all users of her website/forums, that includes you (believe it or not).
I would have taken this privately, but since I don't have your email and the PM functions is still being fixed, sorry to say that I've had to put this publically. If you withdraw your comment and apologise to Sue, I will withdraw mine. |
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Friday February 2, 2007 2:19 pm |
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Fluffy Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 10070
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If you think Im going to sit back and allow some one to accuse me of negelcting my parrots your dead wrong . . I take very good care of all my birds . I also do rescur work . For some one to leave me a nasty comment
saying that my cages are bare is out of line . if you dont agree well Im sorry , but there is No way on this God given earth I am going to allow some one who dont know me to attack me in parrot care just because of a close up picture .. Did they bother to take notice of any of the other pics how healthy and happy all my parrots look ?  I wont put up with it I dont care what site Im on .. There are way to many bird people in the world that seem to think they all know whats best for every one elses parrots . 25 eyars involved with parrots I think I know what Im doing by now
I did not suggest that you sit back when you feel harm is done on you. Just that you don't use foul language. That's a simple rule, isn't it? (Please read the rules here: http://www.fluffies.org/en/rul.....-vt26.html )
I did not discuss your care about your parrots. (Perhaps you could re-read my comment?)
So, will you or won't you follow this simple rule not to use foul language anymore?
PS About the 25 years of knowledge: I think science is always moving forth. I'm glad about that. Even knowledgable scientists continue to learn, every day!
100 years ago, asbestos was still okay to work with. People had worked with it for all their lives. But NOW we know that it's bad for your health.
I hope you don't shut yourself for constructing criticism because you have 25 years of experience. One should always try to improve his or her knowledge. |
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Friday February 2, 2007 2:45 pm |
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fionam
Moderator
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Posts: 1757
Location: Surrey, UK |
Tom,
I cannot believe the way that you have attacked Sue.. That was totally uncalled for...
I am sorry to say that I found your homepage and your "bragging" about trading in birds offensive in the extreme... JUST because the bird does not like you, is not reason to give up on it..
You say that you are in rescue, so what happened to those birds that you "traded in" are they now in a rescue somewhere...
Also why are you breeding and a rescue... There would be no need for rescues if there were not too many birds out there already..
Sue is nothing if not fair and has only asked you not to use foul language, we have many young members and it is not nessesary to swear just to get your point across...
You are a nasty little man, please apologise to Admin NOW.
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Friday February 2, 2007 3:08 pm |
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Cheeta
Moderator
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7967
Location: Australia |
Firstly thanks for your response on my homepage...
Secondly by bragging I meant showing off your birds (with pics), which by the way we ALL do here, that's what the homepage and diarypages are for. I, in no way meant anything negative by it. We all love to brag about our birds. Nor was I refering to the contents in your homepage. Just using it as a generalisation for the use of the homepage.
Thirdly, I will withdraw my first comment because you've made an effort in being civilise with Sue (but I still don't see how she was attacking you in the first place about how you take care of your birds). I will also withdraw this comment as well when I receive an appropriate comment from you.
Thanks. |
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Friday February 2, 2007 4:32 pm |
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Lynzi Marie
Flying tumbler
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 2052
Location: Utah |
I'm glad that you have your kids involved with the raising and caring for your birdies!!!
it's wonderful!
I don't know if you think that your trading in parrots for others was a mistake or not, but by teaching your children to correctly handle and love the birds they live with....they won't necessarily make the same mistakes you did when you were young......
that's a very good thing  |
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Friday February 2, 2007 4:42 pm |
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Cheeta
Moderator
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7967
Location: Australia |
I can understand why you would feel like you have to defend yourself.
But was it really Sue that posted the comment? I thought it was another member that posted the comment but then later removed it. Which by the way was why I went ballistic to start off with because I didn't think Sue attacked you in any way about your care for your birds. |
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Friday February 2, 2007 4:55 pm |
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Cheeta
Moderator
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 7967
Location: Australia |
Lynzi? I thought that was a mistake that she got the comment from you? She's the one you apologise to in her homepage right? am I mistaken again?
As the moderator team do communicate to each other, and I am pretty sure that it was in fact another member of the board that posted the original comments about your birds. I will double check on that though with Sue. |
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Friday February 2, 2007 5:20 pm |
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shirin
Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 7401
Location: Canada, Toronto |
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First off let me say that as Fionam has already said your story is very troubling. The fact that you brag about trading birds, selling them to get better ones ect. does not sit well with most of us. This is what infuriated me at first and perhaps caused me to judge the pictures more harshly without asking any questions. Your response to this is that you traded birds when you were younger, this may be, but you said yourself that you're trying to sell those 2 African Greys for $1200 because they're not breeding, and you see absolutely no problem with this, so obviously you haven't learned much in the past 25 years. You are treating these birds like money making machines, and since they're not reproducing anymore, your first instinct is to get rid of them. If you're really in the habit of rescuing birds, why not rescue these 2??? Why make them be passed on to yet another home, only to be faced with the same fate?
You claim that the greys were in those cages before you brought them home, then why are the breeding amazons in the exact same cages? And their cage too is very bare. Even your pet parrot's cages only have one single toys each. Just browse through everyone else's homepages and diaries and see their cage set-ups. You'll see why what you provide for your birds seems a little strange to us.
The fact is, if you're going to come on here and post your photos and stories on a public forum, you have to be prepared to get some constructive criticism. If I was so wrong in my judgement of your cages because they were close up, why not make me eat my words and post some photos of your breeding area, and show us all these toys you speak of, cuz I still don't see any... unless you consider one single hanging chain enough stimulation for a parrot. My original comment to you did not break any rules. I am a moderator on this forum, and know the rules well. The only reason I removed my comments was because I was sick of you whining about them.
Oh and one more thing, I think allowing your children to hand feed these baby parrots is highly irresponsible. Hand-feeding can have serious complications, and can cause death. Even at pet stores the employees have to be over the age of 18 in order to handfeed. Just something to think about |
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Friday February 2, 2007 11:03 pm |
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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
Posts: 1719
Location: Canada |
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Yes.  I read your story about your birds. I didn't like the part where you bought the TAG. It seemed you only wanted a good talking bird!!!  Yes I know you were 15 when you traded the parrots, but I'm a teen and take care of my 4 birds VERY WELL. I would NEVER trade a parrot. EVER.
you should have researched. THEN you would have known it was a nanday conure, a timneh african grey, and that not all birds talk, and how to tame them. Sure. You read one african grey book. But you should get more resources.
You put a yellow nape amazon and a DYH amazon in the same cage, which is fine. But, didn't you say they didn't have a nest box
yet
and they
didn't seem to be in love?
And that you bought the DYH when you wanted a female YN for your male? Are you going to breed these? Did you know that would create hybrid babies? Lots of people do not like breeding for hybrids. I mean if 2 birds of different species fall in love and breed on their own, Im fine with that, but if you breed just to get hybrids, I don't like that.
*gets down off soapbox* |
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Friday February 2, 2007 11:31 pm |
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cheekie_birdy
Experienced flier
Joined: 08 Jul 2006
Posts: 1719
Location: Canada |
Sorry to bug you again. I just read your comment's on Cheeta's page. Cheeta already said something about this.
I bet you'll think Shirin and I, as well as like everyone else, are attacking you. I've seen most of the messages. I do not think we are. We really like birds, and want to see them in the best possiable situations. If we see something we think isn't right, we tell the owner. We don't attack them. We respect the owner as well.
Like shirin said you are posting this on the internet. Being on the internet is like standing in the creepiest and busiest street of some big city in your underwear. There is going to be some critisizim (sp) to your bird pictures. If we see a bird in a place we don't like, we aren't going to "sit back and take it with a smile" either. ok? |
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Friday February 2, 2007 11:43 pm |
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Lynzi Marie
Flying tumbler
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 2052
Location: Utah |
I just read a comment you left on Cheeta's page.....and I just want to double check that I didn't say anything to offend you......
I'm not one for confrontations....so I'm just checking to make sure so I can appologize correctly for anything I might've said to hurt your feelings.....
I did ask if your 'baldy greys' had toys....but I didn't mean it in a potentially hurtful way....it was more an innocent observation..... |
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Saturday February 3, 2007 12:04 am |
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shirin
Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 7401
Location: Canada, Toronto |
Having had the parrots for 12 years and then giving them up is even worse. It's traumatizing for birds to keep getting rehomed, just like it would be for human children.
If you don't feel the need to prove me wrong, then good, you just proved my case And if what's depicted in the photos is really the best you can provide for your birds, then you seriously should not get into rescue.
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Saturday February 3, 2007 12:34 am |
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Lynzi Marie
Flying tumbler
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 2052
Location: Utah |
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if I could just make one innocent suggestion.......
no offense intended,
but next time someone says anything to you or about the way you care for your birds....
maybe just brush it off and ignore it?
I really think it would just be better for all parties involved, including you, if we all just stopped whatever might be going on right here.......
we've all come here to show people from different parts of the world the places we get to live, and the birds we get to live with....we came here to make friends, not enemies...and by insulting each other back and forth, everyone is just adding fuel to the fire........
I'm not trying to hurt anyone...so please don't attack me for saying these things......
not everyone will agree with everyone else...that's life....some people will voice their opinions...and honestly I think it is all meant as constructive critism, not to demean you or your lifestyle in any way.....
let's all be mature about everything that has been said, and leave it be....
like I said...we've all come here to be friends....can we all maybe try it? |
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Saturday February 3, 2007 1:01 am |
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