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homebird
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This product is made from Bee Pollen - see the ad that helps explain better than me ~ http://www.parrot-paradise.com/avtriot.shtml ~ they also send stuff out.
I've been thinking of introducing this to my Budgies. After reading this thread, I thought more people with a variety of birds, might be interested as well.
The following is a candid conversation between friends about this product. I hope no one's privacy has been invaded here.
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(A) ...I am trying avian trio for my birds---wish me luck---if it helps a "little" it will be well worth it!....
(B) I bought some from there a little while ago & have found that it does have a flavor I guess. P... LOVES Beak Appetit & I put a little on it before I gave it to her, mixed it up good & let her have it. She took a couple of bites & wouldn't touch it. She took the lid I served it to her on & threw it out of her food dish!!
Course now, I may have used too much on it too, was just a pinch but still enough to change the taste of the food. I made birdie muffins a couple of days ago & put some in those & all of my flock love them! I put some of the Avian Trio in it, plus some grated up carrots, kale & ground up pellets. So at least they're eating it!
(C) [owns a Grey, Too & an Ekkie] It worked miracles for my guys! I think you'll see a difference in no time!...A few days, no exaggeration. Then after a few weeks it was dramatic. A...'s [Galah Too] feather quality is like a show bird, and her colors are amazing. It also increased her appetite since she was a very finicky eater when I first took her home. The other 3, same thing. I cant say enough good about the product....
I serve it to them once everyday. I sprinkle it over there hot lunch meal which is always moist. Its usually warm veggies, or Asian Medley. You can put it on fruit also. If you sprinkle it on their pellet blend it all just falls to the bottom so don't bother with that, its will be a waste. Put it on something you know they love so they get use to the taste first. At this point, B...[Grey] will eat it off a spoon if I let him. Once they start to get it into their system you will see a color change in the feathers along with quality. The feathers will become tight and over lap tight. You'll see more energy, appetite, and an overall contentment in them that I cant really explain. Royal Jelly and bee Pollen work wonders in humans as well. Don't be alarmed if you smell it on their breath or if they pick up a musk from it. A... acquired the best smell once she started it. good luck guys! Let me know when you start it!
(A) C...curious---did any of your birds pluck prior to using this product? As you know from my previous posts, mine are rescues with "issues"....I'm hoping I have the same great results.
(C) Mr B..., my CAG was a rescue (in my opinion not a rehome). Anyway, yes, he was an overpreener. He had 2 big strips down his chest when I took him last July, down to the down with a little flesh showing. By January, he was fully feathered. I also have him on red palm oil. He looks great now!
(D) [Person who recommended this product originally] Good luck with it M...! Any results will take at least a month if not longer. It is not instant, so be patient. It is actually great for all birds - not only those with issues.
It boosts their immune system, fills in gaps in nutrition and helps feathering.
Start slowly - it must be placed on something it can stick to and try to mix it in as good as possible. You may want to start with about 1/8 tsp and work your way up to 1/4 tsp. That, along with f/s lighting, may hopefully do the trick. If your fids like cinnamon, you can also sprinkle a small amount of cinnamon onto the food you have chosen to mask the taste. It is definitely an acquired taste.
So if anyone has tried this product would you add your comments? |
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Sue
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Hmmm, propolis is also said to work very good against infections. Bees use this to incapsulate intruders in the hive with. 
These intruders won't rot for like 2 years if I'm correct? |
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Tuesday May 8, 2007 9:17 pm |
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homebird
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Joined: 09 Apr 2006
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Location: Toronto, Canada |
I don't know
- I do know that for many years there have been promotions of this type of product. I can't think it would be different from the pollen available at my organics store - very costly as well. It is stored cold. |
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Wednesday May 9, 2007 12:08 am |
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meg832
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Joined: 16 Jun 2006
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Location: Ohio |
I take my bird out to the garden in the summer and hold her up to edible flowers. She gobbles up the pollen and doesn't eat the flowers. Pollen is excellent food, high in protein. Flower breeders collect pollen and freeze it for future use, so maybe I will collect some to save for my bird this winter. |
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Wednesday May 9, 2007 3:06 am |
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homebird
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Location: Toronto, Canada |
I love the idea of feeding edible flowers!
Last year I clipped Pansies to Laker's cage but he wasn't into anything like that at the time. I think this year will be different.
I know they sell pollen at the farmer's markets - just want the best quality.
At the St Laurence market - south building, downtown Toronto - has a vendor who is selling honey & pollen form the mountains of New Zealand - I've had some & it is delicious! Yum Yum - wild flower honey. |
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Wednesday May 9, 2007 3:20 pm |
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meg832
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Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 365
Location: Ohio |
Mine likes dandelion and violets. Is it safe to give honey to birds? I have heard that you should not use it in hummingbird feeders, so I never considered giving it to my parrotlet. I wonder how much honey residue is actually in the product they sell. |
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Thursday May 10, 2007 3:03 am |
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homebird
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The honey issue has been a recurring one on many boards. I don't think there is a problem. A lot of Budgie or other smaller bird treats have seeds rolled in honey. Maybe it's cooked or pasteurized???
For hummingbirds - well honey can have bacteria. It's processed - by the bee & Hummingbirds eat nectar. |
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Thursday May 10, 2007 3:30 am |
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meg832
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A couple of thoughts--- First, hummingbirds eat nectar, but honey is bee-processed nectar. It is a concentrated sweet. So the questions are, do hummingbirds who come upon a bee hive in the wild manage to sneak a taste? Do parrots rob wild bee hives? Is it the human processing (pasturization or cooking) that wrecks the honey? Second, (and this really disturbs me) yes, I have heard for years that the "bacteria" in honey will kill hummingbirds if you use it in hummingbird feeders. This makes no sense to me because honey is anti-bacterial! It can be used on wounds to protect against infections!!!! If anyone can lead me to the answers of these questions, I'm interested!
By the way, Homebird, I also collect chickweed and grasses in seed for my parrotlet. I put them in a vase by her cage, and she knows exactly what to do. Tomorrow, she will also have dandelion leaves and violet leaves if she cares to dine on them. |
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Friday May 11, 2007 2:07 am |
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shirin
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quote:
Originally posted by meg832
Second, (and this really disturbs me) yes, I have heard for years that the "bacteria" in honey will kill hummingbirds if you use it in hummingbird feeders. This makes no sense to me because honey is anti-bacterial! It can be used on wounds to protect against infections!!!!
Meg, it's not that there's bacteria that naturally exists in the honey. What happens is that when you mix honey with water, wich is what you would have to do to make the consistency desireable for the hummingbirds, the honey quickly ferments, and bacterial cultures grow in it which can kill the birds. |
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Friday May 11, 2007 2:23 pm |
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homebird
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Thanks Shirin - finally some answers! No Drunk or dead Hummingbirds Please!
Meg - love the cut lower idea in a vase. I cut Chicory last year but he didn't try it then. Isn't it wonderful that spring is finally here???!!!
I wanted to pick all the dandelions this morning but i have to go somewhere i know they're oK. |
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Friday May 11, 2007 6:29 pm |
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meg832
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Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 365
Location: Ohio |
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Meg - love the cut lower idea in a vase. I cut Chicory last year but he didn't try it then. Isn't it wonderful that spring is finally here???!!!
I wanted to pick all the dandelions this morning but i have to go somewhere i know they're oK.
I was dismayed this year when I saw the apartment complex's worker spraying as he mowed! Now I have to find a new source for dandelions, too! I don't know how tasty chicory blossoms are, but borage (Borago officinalis) blossoms are nice. We had a late frost that killed the lilac blossoms, so I have to wait until next year for those. Right now, I have a nice boquet of chamomile (Matricaria recutita) by her cage. Lots of parrots love them-- fresh or dried. |
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Sunday May 27, 2007 4:32 am |
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homebird
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Location: Toronto, Canada |
Our city has stopped spraying all the parks & roadways - although there is a cry from homeowners who don't like the dandelions.
some green grocers have dandelions for sale for salads. I also walk in our park along the creek & collect grasses that have tender green seed heads - the birds go crazy for them.
Someone warned me that too much might make them hormonal but so far no trouble. |
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Monday June 11, 2007 2:11 am |
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meg832
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That's wonderful news that your town is spray-free. Let the complainers go dig dandelions with all the time they're now spending on complaining! I hope you'll be able to snatch a couple of blossoms for your birds.
The dandelions at the greengrocers are a special variety. They are very large, and, I think, milder tasting. I wanted to grow them here in a public garden, but the horticulturist wouldn't OK it. I didn't expect that he would.
I also have been grabbing fresh grass seed for my bird. Last year, I braided some stems together and hung them to dry. Those made a nice mid-winter snack/toy.
The big problem I have with grass is my cats also enjoy it! They climb up and help themselves to the bird's boquet, petentially exposing the bird to cat saliva. I've started weaving the grass into the cage wires so that the seeds are on the inside where the cats can't get it. One huge advantage to the fresh seed is that it is still alive. Some seed mixtures are so old that the seed will no longer sprout-- really inferior.
I tried rose blossoms for my bird this year. She wasn't interested. However, parrotlets are cautious by nature. Had I been able to keep roses near her for a couple of weeks, she may have been willing to try them. The daylilies are beginning to bloom here. They were a big hit last year-- she loved eating the pollen. |
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Monday June 11, 2007 11:54 pm |
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homebird
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Joined: 09 Apr 2006
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Location: Toronto, Canada |
My old cat was terrible about dried grass or pussy willow & sometimes flowers. We had at least 2 big flower pots just for her on our balcony. Another sad moment when i look at all the catnip growing - working on the balcony was harder this year as i kept thinking about all the silly stuff my cat would do  - she loved to hang out there & was a lot of fun.
I have had great success with the vase idea.
I also clip the grass to the perches or cages wall with hair clips.
Yesterday i wove some grass stems to make a mat & tied bundles of stems together to make a perch.
[see June's diary]
Regarding the Day Lilies - thanks for the reminder - i really have to look at the edible flower list again & carefully.
My new Budgie has introduced my older one to the thrill of hanging out in the hibiscus tree - hope it flowers again.  [/code] |
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Tuesday June 12, 2007 1:28 am |
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meg832
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Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 365
Location: Ohio |
Sorry about your kitty. I know how hard that is.
ooooh, I love your idea of weaving something from the grass. We could make all sorts of funny little shapes-- maybe even weave around goodies as a foraging toy. It reminds me, too, that I once learned how to make rope. If I can remember how, I can make rope of grass with the seeds still in it. That should keep her busy this winter! |
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