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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
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Location: Northants. UK |
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Originally posted by cashmeer
It's kind of love-hate relationship...  and yes..it would be hard to give him up..my husband says I ve bought every kind of nut grown in south america..I have no clue about other parrots..or about senegals in general..but this parrot can be loving and hateful in a matter of seconds..he is usually fine on my shoulder..but if he gets naughty..back on top of his cage he goes..I havent figured out how to get him INSIDE the cage without a battle..also, I m not sure if parrots can be "spoiled"..if they can..then this one is! I saw a post in another thread..where this person wondered if she should get a parrot...something that was snuggly and loving...I really think the parrot for a person like that..can be found in the "stuffed" animal dept. at a toy store...
Lol you are right about the stuffed toy dept. I sometimes have to trick Pico back in his cage by putting something in his bowl. Generally he goes in without a fuss especially as he has learnt to say 'is it bedtime' and 'night night' that usually means he is ready to go to bed. I also make sure he doesn't have all his evening feed out side his cage so he knows he has more when he goes back in. Your sennie sounds a lot like Pico, he switches as fast as he breathes at times. I went xmas shopping for my two today and there was this woman who picked up a coconut chew toy and asked what would her parrot do with it? I had to look the other way as the shop owner explained very patiently that you hang it in the cage and then she said "but my bird will just chew it to bits"! I give up!!!!!! |
Sunday December 17, 2006 12:45 am |
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Jrmno1sCarrie
Flier
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 718
Location: Ohio |
I had to look the other way as the shop owner explained very patiently that you hang it in the cage and then she said "but my bird will just chew it to bits"! I give up!!!!!![/quote]
That is so funny and so true of some bird owners. I personally get a thrill when I make the birdies something and hang it up and they attack it with gusto. What fun! If I make it in front of them it is even more fun. They come over to help.  Makes me laugh....especially when I'm having a bad day. I don't have a senegal but I run into the same problem with my amazon. He hates going in his cage. It is like he knows after supper it is bedtime so he climbs up as high as he can and just sits up there daring you to pick him up.......eyes pinning and tail feather flaring. I get a stick but John just sticks his hand up there and sometimes gets bit pretty hard. We are going to go back to step up trainging...something we should of kept at every day  |
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Sunday December 17, 2006 8:51 am |
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Julie White
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Joined: 17 Nov 2005
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Location: Staines, England |
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Hi Joti, just a thought, I'm not an expert but I see that you let Pico onto your shoulder, I just wondered if that might put him into a dominant position and make him think that he's 'King of the Castle'. Also could he be wingclipped until he learns some better manners? Perhaps you could wear some thick gloves like gardening gloves when you're worried that he might bite, at least they would protect you and make it less likely that he would draw blood, even if it would still hurt somewhat, maybe then he would get less fun from your reaction to his bite. Sennies can be bolshy little tikes at times and like to rule the roost. I had to leave one of my Sennies [his name is Cheeky] with a friend when I moved here and he sounds just like your Pico. I do see Cheeky many times a week and I'll be moving him here in the future, I know how sharp their beaks are. Cheekys beak has a far sharper edge than Mischief my Hahns Macaw and he's ben known to fly at my face and bite in the past. He's definitely a candidate for wing clipping, good luck. |
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Sunday December 17, 2006 11:56 am |
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Jrmno1
Flying tumbler
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Posts: 2310
Location: Ohio, USA |
If it were an Amazon, I would label it as "terable twos" (sp). This would be just a stage of thier development, I would be constiant with everything and keep telling yourself it can't last forever?
But then I am not sure about the development stages of a Senn...
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Sunday December 17, 2006 12:14 pm |
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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
Pico has been much better this last week or two, he has had quite a heavy molt so reckon that may be part of it. I think from what I am reading that this moodiness is part of some sennies nature. Such a contrast with my grey as he is such a steady bird, I think that is why I worried more about Pico as I now have a comparison. I am kind of resigned to it now and enjoy the differences, Pico is such a mischief. Thanks for all the advice folks. |
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Tuesday December 26, 2006 2:36 pm |
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Fluffy Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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How's Pico today? Is he still better? |
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Tuesday January 9, 2007 12:28 am |
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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
Well, good days and then bad, he bit my lip the other evening after half an hour of being a good bird. Lunged at me when I tried to give him a treat after two days of not lunging. This evening great again. So inconsistent I don't know what to make of it, nothing changes on the bad days so just can't figure it out. Dissapointed that after a year and a half there is little improvement after the initial getting him to step up when I first had him. He still does his little mating dance so he doesn't just hate me, I don't think any way. Dunno really as I feel I have tried everything. |
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Tuesday January 9, 2007 9:36 pm |
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Fluffy Sue
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Hmmm you said he lunged at your when you gave him a treat after two days of not lunging.
I am not sure if Pico will link the reward to his behavior. If you want to be sure he's linking it please keep a short training session. In this way, he'll get it.
I don't think that he hates you. Please don't take biting personal. I know this is easy to say, but it's really important not to take biting personal!  |
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Monday January 15, 2007 6:41 pm |
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MESABoogie
Fledgeling
Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 201
Location: Canada |
both Focker and his brother Darwin can be very unpredictable ... I talk with the girl that has the brother every day and we both have a laugh over how they act at times ... Focker can be so loving one minute and the next take a bite out of my finger, the same with his brother ... he also does the same thing with my husband, sweet and loving and then boom  ..
I never let Focker get too close to my face or up on my shoulder ...
both me and the girl that has the brother, have come to the conclusion, that maybe this is just typical sennie behaviour, the fact about being
unpredictable ... Focker will be hitting the terrible twos in March, and I'm sure I will be in for a whole host of new behaviours and adventures |
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Monday January 15, 2007 10:42 pm |
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sentiels3
Experienced flier
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 1312
Location: Joliet, Ill |
I have been very lucky with my sennie, Pepper. She is a female and is a lot sweeter and loves to cuddle. I only let her up on my shoulder once in a while, its like a special treat. I mostly carry her around on my fingers. She sits on my index finger and I place my thumb over her feet so she knows to stay put. Her breeder taught her this. Pepper's breeder did wonders with her. I can touch her anywhere on her body, turn her on her back and scritch her belly and play with her feet. She has never bitten me so far but I am careful when she is close to my face. maybe females are more calm than the males.  |
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Thursday January 25, 2007 7:24 am |
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A11ycat
Just hatched
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 32
Location: N. Ireland |
You mentioned something about having to put the senegal back in its cage when it was bad.
Just a suggestion, whenever I put Tango in his cage just to go back, I give him a few treats in his bowl (Pine nuts or Chillies - stuff he doesn't normaly get) and give him some fuss through the cage bars. When he's naughty and goes back in his cage he doesn't get anything at all, and I just leave the room.
This way I've never had a problem getting him back in his cage. |
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Friday January 26, 2007 11:14 am |
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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
He goes back on or in his cage because I don't want him attacking me. I also then ignore him for a while. It depends on the time as to whether I shut him in. He is totally unpredictable in this area too. For days he will willingly go back in his cage when it is his bed time, he oftens asks to go to bed by saying "is it bed time" and almost the same time every night. Then he gets a treat. Then he suddenly decides not to go in, for no apparent reason. I now have two other birds and now I know just how bad Pico is. My other fids are fantastic and I know if they aren't happy I have done something to upset them (which is not very often) they are both such steady birds and have no problems with them at all. Pico is really getting me down because he can be so nasty without any apparent reason. He has been a bit better since I have had the other two, may be he is learning by example. It does upset me though because I don't think he can be happy. |
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Sunday January 28, 2007 10:25 pm |
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sentiels3
Experienced flier
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 1312
Location: Joliet, Ill |
Maybe Pico can learn from example. Let him see you interacting with your other birds, and the fun you are having. Maybe he will get the idea that if he is nice he can have fun too. just a thought. |
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Tuesday January 30, 2007 6:54 am |
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joti26
Fledgeling
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 222
Location: Northants. UK |
Yes that is what I am doing. They all have a special time too alternative evenings just one to one before bed time. |
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Tuesday January 30, 2007 8:51 am |
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sentiels3
Experienced flier
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 1312
Location: Joliet, Ill |
I hope it works, it may just take time. So be patient and keep working with him. Do not give up on the little guy.
My mom's tiel, Maxi can be nice one minute and attack you the next. We just have to watch his moods and handle him differently so we don't get bit, but sometimes we still get bit. He's a very spoiled rotten bird and very attached to my mom. She is the one who spoiled him and she is the one that has to get him to change his behavior, but she won't listen to what I tell her to do. So we just deal with Max the Terror.   |
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Thursday February 1, 2007 5:38 am |
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